# Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene MUST GO

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895 "2021-01-31T00:44:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/643 "2022-04-21T00:57:30Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> MTG is testifying in a lawsuit some patriots brought against her candidacy on 14th Amendment grounds. Other such cases have been tossed without getting this far. This judge, however, is going to get things into the legal record.

To elaborate just a bit.

Section 3 of the 14th amendment says

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> No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

This was intended to prevent people who fought in the civil war against the United States from reentering congress, but there’s no reason why the law can’t apply generally.

So somebody sued Madison Cawthorn, alleging that he was ineligible to run because he had participated in the rebellion. But the judge threw the case out on a wacky theory - a law from the end of Reconstruction, which issued a blanket pardon to confederates (thereby undermining the original intent of the language, which was to prevent these people from retaking power in the South), somehow applied to whatever Madison has done.

The judge in Marge’s case disagreed with that ruling. He hasn’t said that she has actually engaged in a rebellion, or that this section should apply to her, but he has said that it’s a justiciable issue, so she needs to honor a subpoena and answer questions under oath: “were you engaged in the January 6th insurrection, or give aid or comfort to those who were?”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/644 "2022-04-21T06:39:25Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> or **elector** of President and Vice-President

Bolding mine.

I wonder how many of the conspirators were in those ~~one true~~ alternative slates of Electoral College voters.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/645 "2022-04-21T17:24:13Z")

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Here’s a full list of the fake electors ( and of the electors that refused to sign the fake documents and were replaced by more compliant traitors).

> **[Trump’s fake electors: Here’s the full list - Louisiana Illuminator](https://lailluminator.com/2022/01/31/trumps-fake-electors-heres-the-full-list/)**
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> Groups from seven states allegedly sent lists of so-called alternate electors to the National Archives after the 2020 election.

I did not recognize any of the names. The article also includes brief biographies, lots of grifters in the mix.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/646 "2022-04-21T18:20:15Z")

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Thanks for the list.

I looked up [Jake Hoffman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Hoffman_(Arizona_politician)) and he’s held only state offices, not Federal, so that clause wouldn’t apply to him in any event. He looks like a real piece of work, though,

I’m keeping it in mind if he decides to run for US Representative.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/647 "2022-04-21T21:34:26Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> answer questions under oath: “were you engaged in the January 6th insurrection, or give aid or comfort to those who were?”

So when she answers “no” to that question, and evidence is provided that shows that she sent money or supplies to convicted insurrectionists, or she gave tours or maps or direction or information to convicted insurrectionists… can she be charged with Perjury and put away for a while?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/648 "2022-04-21T23:04:15Z")

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She probably won’t even show up, and offer some stalling maneuver that is totally without merit, which will be given much credence due to who she is.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/649 "2022-04-22T06:07:00Z")

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“The dog ate my testimony.”

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/650 "2022-04-22T09:52:29Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> She probably won’t even show up, and offer some stalling maneuver that is totally without merit, which will be given much credence due to who she is

Why? It’s not like she has any committee assignments that take precedence.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/651 "2022-04-22T10:29:49Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> she needs to honor a subpoena and answer questions under oath

“Ms Greene, are you aware of the penalty for perjury?”  
“I’m pretty sure it’s less than the penalty for treason.”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/652 "2022-04-22T14:06:59Z")

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The lyrics for “These Boots are Made for Walkin’” just popped into my head.

_You keep lyin’ when you oughta be truthin’  
And you keep losing when you oughta not bet  
You keep samin’ when you oughta be a’changin’  
Now what’s right is right but you ain’t been right yet  
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You keep playin’ where you shouldn’t be playin’  
And you keep thinkin’ that you’ll never get burnt (ha)  
I just found me a brand new box of matches, yeah  
And what he knows you ain’t had time to learn_

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/653 "2022-04-22T14:08:51Z")

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[Here’s a link to the C-Span coverage of the testimony](https://www.c-span.org/video/?519623-1/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-testifies-administrative-hearing). Right now, it’s just her lawyer droning on over the definition of words.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/654 "2022-04-22T15:13:05Z")

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Greene is now on the stand.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/655 "2022-04-22T15:40:05Z")

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The plantiffs’ attorney tried to jump ahead a little bit without laying the foundation that Greene is an insurrectionist, but it seems to be going better now. 12-minute break for IT issues.

What’s everyone’s opinion so far? Preferably someone smarter than I.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/656 "2022-04-22T15:43:37Z")

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I have to get a copy of Bopp’s opening statement to play when I can’t fall asleep. I knew Goone would try to make a speech. And that anecdote about her husband (god help him) voting proves trump won.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/657 "2022-04-22T15:46:49Z")

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Bopp was right about one thing: Our democracy _is_ at stake. If we’ll allow insurrectionists to run for Congress, what hope is there for our country?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/658 "2022-04-22T15:48:38Z")

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I liked when old baseball cap guy applauded at the first break.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/659 "2022-04-22T15:49:15Z")

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And got promptly bitched at by the judge.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/660 "2022-04-22T16:02:47Z")

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They’re coming back from break.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/661 "2022-04-22T16:07:21Z")

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She just said, _under oath_, that she never, _ever_ espouses violence.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/662 "2022-04-22T16:10:18Z")

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She just lied under oath AGAIN by saying she’s never said Pelosi is a traitor.

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