# Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene MUST GO **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895 "2021-01-31T00:44:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 83
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1645 "2024-04-19T01:01:10Z")
Is mtg getting a salary? She has hefty fines due to not wearing a mask. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1646 "2024-04-19T01:08:38Z")
[$174k/yr and she says that she doesn’t like the job and used to make more money.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/04/marjorie-taylor-greene-backlash-congressional-salary) So…quit? > [@rocking\_chair](#): > > She has hefty fines due to not wearing a mask. The fine appears to be [$88k](https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-is-spending-more-than-half-her-salary-on-mask-fines), but I have no idea if it’s paid. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1647 "2024-04-19T01:13:04Z")
Re her amendment to zero-out salaries of those who vote the wrong way: Article I, Section 6, Clause 1: **The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services** Also, the 27th amendment says you can’t change compensation until an intervening election. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1648 "2024-04-19T01:16:54Z")
I know she tried to get a few people down to $1/yr. I don’t remember she actually pulled it off though. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1649 "2024-04-19T01:18:48Z")
I guess she hadn’t actually read up to the 27th Amendment yet. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1650 "2024-04-19T01:27:49Z")
She hasn’t read any of it. What she knows about the first and second amendments she’s picked up from bumper stickers she’s seen. Or ballcaps, or T-shirts, or belt buckles. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1651 "2024-04-19T01:40:37Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) has introduced [one to rename Greene’s office](https://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/Moskowitz%20Amendment%202240418084702067.pdf?_gl=1*1fncvut*_ga*MjE2OTY4MjM5LjE3MTM0NTk2Mzg.*_ga_N4RTJ5D08B*MTcxMzQ1OTYzOC4xLjEuMTcxMzQ2MDc0NC4wLjAuMA): > > > [@](#): > > > > AMENDMENT TO H.R. 8035 > > OFFERED BY Mr. Moskowitz of Florida > > At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the following: > > SEC. \_\_\_ > > Resolved, that 403 Cannon House Office Building be renamed the “Neville Chamberlain Room” Moskowitz’s other MTG-related amendment: "The…amendment calls for Greene to be appointed “Vladimir Putin’s Special Envoy to the United States Congress.” “The amendment says Greene has “repeatedly attempted to block aid to Ukraine, empowering Vladimir Putin’s unlawful violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity,” and that she “has reposted information from the Strategic Culture Foundation, a Russian based disinformation and propaganda channel that has been sanctioned by [the Office of Foreign Assets Control].” ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1652 "2024-04-19T01:56:58Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > > > Resolved, that 403 Cannon House Office Building be renamed the “Neville Chamberlain Room” > > I’d say it could also be the “Putin Puppet Room” This is much more fair-minded than the Neville Chamberlain idea, Chamberlain’s signature policy failed, but he was a serious humanitarian diplomat and an unambiguous opponent of Nazism. It is unfair to Chamberlain’s memory to link him to MTG. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1653 "2024-04-19T02:12:47Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Is mtg getting a salary? She has hefty fines due to not wearing a mask. The fines took a big bite out of her salary, but she still gets paid. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > The fine appears to be [$88k](https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-is-spending-more-than-half-her-salary-on-mask-fines), but I have no idea if it’s paid. I understand it was deducted from her salary. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1654 "2024-04-19T10:58:29Z")
I assume that as well, but I have no idea if they’ve would’ve deducted it all at once (ie she doesn’t get paid until the fine is paid off) or if she had a payment plan. Even if they were taking, say, $500/wk, she’d still be paying it down. But since writing a law that would fund the government like that is such a bizarre idea that would never actually happen, I didn’t dig too much deeper than that. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1655 "2024-04-19T11:54:43Z")
I understand that every time she was fined it was deducted from her next pay check. It’s already been paid in full. She was trying to get it refunded. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1656 "2024-04-21T19:06:41Z")
I am normally very reluctant to make accusations of disloyalty, but maybe MTG should be the exception. This post may seem, to most here, to take too many words to prove something that is so obvious, but for any lurkers: Earlier I quoted a few of her obnoxious amendments to the Ukraine aid bill, but missed one that is, for good reason, being highlighted elsewhere: [Amendment to H.R. 8035 – Ukraine Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2024](https://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/ethnic%20minorities%20amendment240418131602176.pdf) > [@](#): > > No funding shall be made available to Ukraine unless restrictions on ethnic minorities’, including Hungarians in Transcarpathia, right to use their native languages in schools are lifted. The issue with the above isn’t just that it is pro-Russian, but that it is hard to see an American isolationist using those words on their own. It is getting down into weeds that Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orbán care about much more than an American paleo-conservative does. Could it then be that MTG, or her staff member who drafts amendments, is sincerely sympathetic to Russia, and expressed that by copying and pasting from a pro-Russian-government web page? That would be bad enough, but, unless I am missing something, it looks, from the preponderance of the evidence, to be worse than that. I googled the phrase “including Hungarians in Transcarpathia, right” and cannot be find it ever used prior to this month, when we see the amendment and subsequent discussion. So I start thinking this way: [U.S. Congresswoman Suspected of Having “Russian Handlers” After Transcarpathia Amendment](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/u-s-congresswoman-suspected-of-having-russian-handlers-after-transcarpathia-amendment/ar-AA1njzQ3?ocid=socialshare&cvid=8fcefcf82b6f4202af933256260834d4&ei=11) Do I think she sneaks around [Rock Creek Park](https://www.nps.gov/rocr/index.htm) going to those [dead drops](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_drop) you read about in spy novels? Sounds unlikely. A staff member? More plausible. Or maybe burner phones have made dead drops obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1657 "2024-04-21T19:30:52Z")
Wow. Transcarpathia? She couldn’t get Gestapo right. She is _at best_ an easily manipulated useful idiot, and at worst, a deliberate enemy agent. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1658 "2024-04-22T00:15:45Z")
I am leaning towards the latter. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1659 "2024-04-22T01:40:40Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > She is _at best_ an easily manipulated useful idiot, and at worst, a deliberate enemy agent. Russia does not meet the [legal definition of enemy](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/4302). If she, or a member of her staff, is a paid agent of Russia, that would be no more or less illegal than if they are a paid agent of Hungary (Russia’s NATO friend) or even Canada. What I think would make it illegal is if she, or a member of her staff, was both being paid and not on the public list of registered foreign agents found here: [https://efile.fara.gov/ords/fara/f?p=1381:130:11549302932561::NO::P130\_CNTRY:RU](https://efile.fara.gov/ords/fara/f?p=1381:130:11549302932561::NO::P130_CNTRY:RU) If someone is an unpaid agent of influence of a foreign government not at war with the United States, I think that’s legal, and maybe that’s what you meant by a “manipulated useful idiot.” Based on reading true spy stories, the problem is, once you get to that point, your handler tries to gain added control by throwing money at you, and it’s apparently hard to say no. Can the FBI check up on this? If I understand correctly, maybe, but, as of a few hours ago, they have to warn her first. Here is an article on the bill signing: [Biden signs surveillance bill](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/19/politics/fisa-senate-negotiations/index.html) And here is the new provision protecting members of congress who might be illegal foreign agents: [ Spy reauthorization bill would give lawmakers special notifications](https://rollcall.com/2024/04/18/spy-reauthorization-bill-would-give-lawmakers-special-notifications/) > [@](#): > > A bill to renew a powerful surveillance authority for two years would afford special treatment to members of Congress, adding a requirement that lawmakers be notified when they are the subject of an FBI search under the program. > > The provision is tucked inside a broader bill being considered by the Senate that would renew Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which allows the U.S. government to collect digital communications of foreigners located outside the country. And, after that, Greene is going to try to get Johnson fired. No gratitude. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1660 "2024-04-22T01:52:06Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Russia does not meet the [legal definition of enemy](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/4302). I think you’re picking a nit. Whatever the technical definition is, I can safely categorize Russia as dedicatedly hostile to our interests. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1661 "2024-04-22T01:57:45Z")
Yea, that didn’t bother Ike when he signed Ethel Rosenberg’s death warrant. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1662 "2024-04-22T02:25:19Z")
Because the Rosenbergs were not charged with treason; their case was one of espionage. And potentially that could be the kind of charge someone in Congress could face if they are working on behalf of Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1663 "2024-04-22T04:27:22Z")
I think **PhillyGuy** ’s assessment was spot on. MTG is using certain terms and phrasing that the average MAGA would never use. The average MAGA hasn’t even a clue where Transcarpathia is, or couldn’t care less about the plight of ethnic Hungarians there. That’s something only a Russian would care about. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1664 "2024-04-22T06:26:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I am leaning towards the latter. Why pay her when she’s doing the job for free? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895.md?page=82) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895.md?page=84)