# Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene MUST GO **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895 "2021-01-31T00:44:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1965 "2025-11-18T11:04:54Z")
She would be of less dependable support than even Fetterman. It’s stunning that we’re even discussing this. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1966 "2025-11-18T11:43:19Z")
There is not a chance in hell that Democratic leadership accepts MTG as a “reformed Dem,” unless she fully recants _all_ of her beliefs and undergoes a wholesale political and philosophical conversion and issues a groveling apology for her past behavior, i.e. becomes an entirely different person. As there is zero possibility of that, the door is closed to her. I have **[previously](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/95)** explained my opinion about the primary sin between the Right and the Left — namely, weakness and hypocrisy respectively (or, put another way: the Right demands purity of _action_ while the Left polices purity of _thought_). The GOP will welcome any loyal soldier with an R after his or her name, past sins be damned, in the name of power. On the Dem side, by contrast, leadership knows they would be crucified even for floating the prospect of an idea in this direction, because her loyalty would not be seen as sincere. Even in the wildly implausible world where she offers to switch, she would be swiftly and decisively refused. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1967 "2025-11-18T12:09:49Z")
I don’t think the Dems would trust her at all. But if accepting her was the difference between getting to pick the Speaker of the House or not, they’d pretend to accept her for the duration even though everyone would know it was a lie. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1968 "2025-11-18T12:42:45Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > She would be of less dependable support than even Fetterman. > It’s stunning that we’re even discussing this. Yeah. This isn’t a pro-wrestling league where a character can switch from heel to hero at the drop of a hat. That she’s fighting against Trump doesn’t make her any less MTG than she was two years ago. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1969 "2025-11-18T13:01:12Z")
Of course the Democratic Party has room for Marjorie Taylor Greene! Why break the tradition of having enough Democrats in the House and/or Senate to get anything the party wants passed but somehow not having enough votes to get anything passed? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1970 "2025-11-18T13:09:19Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > That she’s fighting against Trump doesn’t make her any less MTG than she was two years ago Fighting him on one or two specific things. Taking the angle that he’s not delivering what he promised, not that he was wrong to start with. And besides she knows that unless she’s convincingly losing the polls in the last week of the primary, he’ll turn around to say he’s been with with her all along anyway. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1971 "2025-11-18T13:29:26Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Yeah. This isn’t a pro-wrestling league where a character can switch from heel to hero at the drop of a hat. That she’s fighting against Trump doesn’t make her any less MTG than she was two years ago. A face eating leopard can’t change it’s spots. No way in hell would I every trust her or forgive her. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1972 "2025-11-18T13:53:55Z")
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1973 "2025-11-18T15:04:07Z")
Good grief, she’s not going to flip sides. Just because she’s no longer calling for the immediate execution of Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi doesn’t mean she’s anywhere close to being a Democrat. She’s an “America First” Republican, which is just MAGA without the Israel worship. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1974 "2025-11-18T16:34:41Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less. This is correct. In this situation you sit back and just hope for maximum chaos in the opposition. If Susan Collins wants to defect you reluctantly think about it in realpolitik terms if it will get you a majority - a somewhat worse Krysten Sinema may not exactly be enticing, but a majority is worth something and Collins is not irredeemably toxic. If Marjorie Taylor Greene wants to defect you say a polite no-thank-you, majority be damned. Because she’s insane. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1975 "2025-11-18T17:03:39Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > She’s a vile, grifting liar who currently sort of agrees with me on one issue. If it becomes obvious to her that that is not the path to future power and money, she’ll have forgotten she ever said that, blame her staff for saying that, or claim it was all just fake news. I agree. I would not be at all surprised to learn that this Epstein angle is just another bit of kayfabe to keep herself in the headlines. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1976 "2025-11-18T19:52:01Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > That she’s fighting against Trump doesn’t make her any less MTG than she was two years ago. I think we can see recent examples with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. Both allied with Democrats in denouncing Donald Trump for his role in the January 6 insurrection, and joined their committee to investigate the incident. Neither switched sides, though. They stayed Republican. They also lost their seats in the next election; Cheney lost the primary to a challenger backed by Trump, and Kinzinger didn’t bother to seek reelection. Could that happen to MTG? I can see it, possibly, if it’s the right issue. I don’t see her switching sides and being accepted though. At most she could run as an independent. And I expect that if she does make a dramatic turn, she would find herself losing her support just as Cheney and Kinzinger did. (Which I wouldn’t be unhappy about.) ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1977 "2025-11-18T21:32:44Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > a somewhat worse Krysten Sinema may not exactly be enticing, but a majority is worth something and Collins is not irredeemably toxic. She may not be irredeemably toxic, but she is irredeemably concerned. ### 😣 ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1978 "2025-11-19T01:35:34Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > On the Dem side, by contrast, leadership knows they would be crucified even for floating the prospect of an idea in this direction, because her loyalty would not be seen as sincere. I wonder if [Jamie Raskin](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5609515-raskin-democrats-marjorie-taylor-greene/) is now going to be primaried. Or does he get forgiven due to not AFAIK being in leadership? As for lack of sincerity, what about the vast majority of GOP House members who switched their vote on the Epstein Files Transparency Act the moment DJT told them to switch? Aren’t they almost all less sincere than MTG? I fear the Democratic base knows the answer to the immediately above question is yes, and [isn’t interested in recruiting R to D party changers, period](https://emilyslist.org/sound-the-alarm/sound-the-alarm-ex-republican-geoff-duncan-cant-cover-up-his-long-anti-abortion-record/), even ones who might be more plausible than Greene. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1979 "2025-11-19T01:47:27Z")
Well, you know, especially not MTG. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1980 "2025-11-19T02:03:44Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I wonder if [Jamie Raskin](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5609515-raskin-democrats-marjorie-taylor-greene/) is now going to be primaried. Or does he get forgiven due to not AFAIK being in leadership? I’d like to see a side-by-side chart of Democrats who would welcome MTG and whether or not they endorsed Zohran Mamdani. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1981 "2025-11-19T02:24:31Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I wonder if [Jamie Raskin](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5609515-raskin-democrats-marjorie-taylor-greene/) is now going to be primaried. Or does he get forgiven due to not AFAIK being in leadership? Since this just doesn’t want to die, can you explain to me, a far left democratic socialist, why I should listen to you, a Republican, when it comes to internal party decision making? I figure you got some fixin’ to do in your own party, to be perfectly honest. You’re obvious more than welcome to opine, but you seem really, really, really hung up on this one particular thing, so I’m questioning your reasoning behind it. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1982 "2025-11-19T03:18:37Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Since this just doesn’t want to die, can you explain to me, a far left democratic socialist, why I should listen to you, a Republican, when it comes to internal party decision making? If by “listen” you mean “agree with PhillyGuy,” open-mindedness can go too far. But IMHO whatever consideration might be given to what someone is saying here shouldn’t have anything to do with who they are, now or in the past. This is my SDMB analogy to welcoming R to D party changers. > [@Smapti](#): > > I’d like to see a side-by-side chart of Democrats who would welcome MTG and whether or not they endorsed Zohran Mamdani. I’ve only seen one Democratic Party politician who said he would welcome MTG if she changed her views: [Statement of Congressman Jamie Raskin Endorsing Zohran Mamdani for Mayor of New York City](https://jamieraskin.com/raskin-mamdani-endorsement/) I think Raskin based that endorsement on Mamdani’s current views. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1983 "2025-11-19T03:27:04Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > If by “listen” you mean “agree with PhillyGuy,” open-mindedness can go too far. But IMHO whatever consideration might be given to what someone is saying here shouldn’t have anything to do with who they are, now or in the past. This is my SDMB analogy to welcoming R to D party changers. Of course it should matter from what position someone is coming. If you see me offering ideas to fix the Republican party, you should probably do the opposite. As long as it wouldn’t result in even worse outcomes than we already have (and I can’t imagine that it would), I’d be perfectly happy to watch the Republican party implode. I probably wouldn’t just watch, I’d be trying to help. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/1984 "2025-11-19T03:28:14Z")
“If she changed her views” Well that’s open to interpretation. Do you perhaps have a quote instead of a blind link? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895.md?page=100)