# Conrad Black Jury Reaches Verdict

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 13, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648 "2007-07-13T14:57:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![ColonelDax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@ColonelDax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColonelDax)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/1 "2007-07-13T14:57:20Z")

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For any Dopers interested in the criminal trial of former media mogul [Conrad Black](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Black), the jury has reached a verdict and will announce its decision at 10:15 a.m. Chicago time, or in about 20 minutes, Bloomberg is reporting.

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**Author:** ![ColonelDax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@ColonelDax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColonelDax)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/2 "2007-07-13T15:31:00Z")

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Black has been found guilty of fraud, Bloomberg says.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/3 "2007-07-13T15:44:45Z")

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Schadenfreude circuits primed.

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**Author:** ![ColonelDax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@ColonelDax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColonelDax)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/4 "2007-07-13T15:45:29Z")

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More details: Black was found guilty on three fraud charges and a charge of obstruction of justice. He was cleared of some charges of fraud and others involving racketeering and taxes. (All from Bloomberg.)

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/5 "2007-07-13T16:06:19Z")

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The advert on the bottom of this thread’s page says “Blown Head Gasket”. I don’t know why, but somehow it seems appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/6 "2007-07-13T16:16:53Z")

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The Google Ad reads ‘Child with a heart defect?’ i think this is the only instance in which I’d find that funny. i’m actually quite surprised by the verdict. I thought he’d get off, except maybe on the obstruction of justice bit.

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/7 "2007-07-13T16:52:47Z")

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My dad was positive he would be found guilty of at least a few charges- and he’s the only person I talked to who thought that. I’ve learned, in my 30 years, that it is usually a good idea to listen to my dad.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/8 "2007-07-13T17:30:42Z")

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I bet he’ll be the only Baron in the US federal penal system.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/9 "2007-07-13T17:44:11Z")

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Snerk… Baron… Penal…

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/10 "2007-07-13T18:23:22Z")

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CBC’s reporting guilty on four charges.

Oh, man, am I ever feeling the _schadenfreude_…

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**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/11 "2007-07-14T00:02:44Z")

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I was reading through a copy of Maclean’s magazine at the dentist today, and turns out “Lady Black” - aka - Barbara Amiel is a writer with the magazine… The woman is such a snot it’s amazing…

Her column was about how Chicago is SUCH a nice city, and if they were there in other circumstances, she’d love to live there… But, _of course_, they’ll be leaving soon, so it doesn’t matter, blah, blah, blah… There was just such a condescending tone in her article it was hard to stomach.

Guess she’s gonna have \*alot \*of time to taste Deep Dish Pizza now… 😃

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/12 "2007-07-14T00:07:42Z")

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The entire thing’s just mystifying to me. Black has this hold over the Canadian consciousness that defies any sort of rational explanation; even granting he used to own somne media himself, the depth of feeling people who’ve never met him seem to have for him is just so intense and irrational. A lot of people seem to despise him as if he’s John Wayne Gacy, and some people seem to have this hero-worship thing for him. There’s lots of rich guys around who don’t draw the sort of attention Black does (even before his trial.)

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/13 "2007-07-14T05:02:10Z")

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Another intelligent, successful business tycoon who seems unable to distinguish between his own money and that of the shareholders.

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**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2007, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/14 "2007-07-14T09:22:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Cunctator]  
Another intelligent, successful business tycoon who seems unable to distinguish between his own money and that of the shareholders.  
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This also puts you in mind of Robert Maxwell, another newspaper tycoon who couldn’t keep his hands out of the till. By all accounts Conrad Black isn’t a very nice person. Why does newspaper ownership seem to attract unpleasant people? There is a long line of them, including Randolf Hurst, Robert Maxwell , Conrad Black and Rupert Murdoch. Do you have to be a bastard to own a newspaper ?

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conrad-black-jury-reaches-verdict/411648/15 "2007-12-10T20:43:23Z")

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And an update: today Conrad Black was sentenced to [6 1/2 years in prison.](http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-ConradBlack.html?hp)
