# Conscious experience is self-representational access to intrinsic properties

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conscious-experience-is-self-representational-access-to-intrinsic-properties/954814
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [November 23, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conscious-experience-is-self-representational-access-to-intrinsic-properties/954814 "2021-11-23T16:57:31Z")
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### Author: ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)
#### Post date: [April 1, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conscious-experience-is-self-representational-access-to-intrinsic-properties/954814/10 "2023-04-01T14:34:37Z")

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> [@The next page in the book of AI evolution is here, powered by GPT 3.5, and I am very, nay, extremely impressed](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-next-page-in-the-book-of-ai-evolution-is-here-powered-by-gpt-3-5-and-i-am-very-nay-extremely-impressed/975945/1421):
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> That’s, at best, a proof that a human can do it (and I doubt that it’s even that, but I’ll grant that for the sake of argument).

Jumping this discussion to this thread, if that’s alright -

I’m gonna need slightly more convincing than that. I don’t find the fact that you, a human of a certain culture, identify certain collections of stimuli as “cat” to be somehow more meaningful than an embodied chatbot like PALM-E being able to do the same, and I still don’t understand what “inner un-get-atable nature” you can get at through your memory of all the past times that a collection of stimuli was identified as a “cat” that PALM-E doesn’t also have access to.

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