# "Conservapedia": The Right's answer to Wikipedia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 5, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731 "2007-03-05T22:04:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/201 "2007-03-14T17:41:15Z")

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It would be best if y’all did not lay plans over here for vandalization over there. Strikes me as being too close to a board war.

Please carry on with the mocking.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/202 "2007-03-14T18:13:38Z")

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K

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> Egypt’s complex, picture-based language probably hindered its growth. The picture-based language was not as easy to use as the alphabet-based Phoenician language later adopted by the Greeks and Romans. How would one express Christian concepts like salvation, faith, hope and redemption? It seems impossible.

They didn’t have the same language as us, so they couldn’t express Christian concepts?

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> The ancient Egyptians worshiped many gods, often inspired by animals or aspects of nature such as the sun. Only nobles could aspire to an afterlife, and only the king himself could become unified with Osiris, a legendary king who represented the forces of agriculture. These religious views could not survive the spread of Islam and Christianity today.

Cuz our make-believe supernatural entities are much more powerful than their make-believe supernatural entities.

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> Egyptian invented mummification, which began in the 4th Dynasty. It took the Egyptians a long time to develop this art, but they ultimately succeeded to perfection. Without going into all the gory details, it consists of removing the internal organs from a body after death, treating the body with resin, and then wrapping it tightly in linen bandages. You should consider becoming a doctor if you have an interest in this.

Or a serial killer, whatever.

The random commentary is the best part.

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_McCello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Alistair\_McCello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alistair_McCello)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/203 "2007-03-14T18:21:19Z")

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> [@Andy Schlafly](#):
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> Ancient history, which is everything before about A.D. 600, created or discovered all the major religions today except Islam.

And that one other major religion, what was it called again? Oh shoot… I think Schlafly obscurly mentions it somewhere else in his lectures…

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_McCello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Alistair\_McCello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alistair_McCello)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/204 "2007-03-14T18:29:50Z")

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Ok, that was stupid of me. In my excitement over his… lets say odd, views of world history I completely misread this as 600 B.C. I’ll slink away now and let others with better reading comprehension skills take their shots at him.

Naturally the one time I have ever needed to use the edit button the internet at work decides that it is going to take 8 minutes to load each page…

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/205 "2007-03-14T19:44:46Z")

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The quote is still stupid because he says history created the religions. That doesn’t even make sense. He has the concept of history confused with the past.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/206 "2007-03-15T00:19:18Z")

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Check out “Insular”, “Motherhood Statement” and “Wilful Ignorance”.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/207 "2007-03-15T00:32:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Princhester]  
Check out “Insular”, “Motherhood Statement” and “Wilful Ignorance”.  
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Something’s wrong with those entries. They aren’t haltingly disjointed and awkwardly constructed.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/208 "2007-03-15T00:49:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
Something’s wrong with those entries. They aren’t haltingly disjointed and awkwardly constructed.  
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I think it’s obvious that the author isn’t the beneficiary of “[homeschooling](http://www.eagleforumu.org/EAGLEFORUMU/)” using the Schlafly method. Too bad, as I’m pretty sure that they will soon begin using a spelling/grammar checker, and that anything that passes will automatically be deleted as vandalism.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/209 "2007-03-15T02:42:07Z")

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After reading this thread, a quote from [this site](http://www.eagleforumu.org/EAGLEFORUMU/) scares me :

[QUOTE=Eagle forum university]  
Many of Mr. Schlafly’s homeschooled students are now in top colleges.  
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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/210 "2007-03-15T03:15:28Z")

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I don’t know that I’d be getting too worried on the basis of “facts” as reported by Mr Schafly

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/211 "2007-03-15T03:27:13Z")

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from **detop’s** post:

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> Originally Posted by **Eagle forum university**  
> Many of Mr. Schlafly’s homeschooled students are now in top colleges.

I wonder which one, Liberty or Bob Jones?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/212 "2007-03-15T10:31:49Z")

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> Many of Mr. Schlafly’s homeschooled students are now in top colleges.

Where they are working hard to remedy the damage.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/213 "2007-03-15T10:32:57Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
They didn’t have the same language as us, so they couldn’t express Christian concepts?  
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Exactly! - if English was good enough for Jesus, it should be good enough for the haughty ancient Egyptians.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/214 "2007-03-15T11:16:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Princhester]  
I don’t know that I’d be getting too worried on the basis of “facts” as reported by Mr Schafly  
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But the truthiness of Constipedia should be evident from how it treats celebrites. Take the entry on the people’s champion of crusading journalism [Stephen Colbert](http://www.conservapedia.com/Stephen_Colbert)

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> In August of 2006, he encouraged users to state that the population of African [elephants](http://www.conservapedia.com/Elephants) had tripled in the last decade. Colbert’s point was that if enough people believe something, it becomes “the truth.” Wikipedia responded quickly by reverting and protecting pages.

You can see the typical liberal Wiki-bias. Substituting truth for silly opinions. Of course, a truly partiotic American repository of knowledge would never make that kind of error in its sacred pages, would it? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/215 "2007-03-15T14:48:00Z")

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😛😛😛  
From the [Nobel Prize](http://www.conservapedia.com/Nobel_Prize) entry:

“The selection process has become political[Citation Needed], as the prize was not given to Ronald Reagan or Pope John Paul II, and has not been given to anyone who criticizes the theory of evolution.”

I **love** the “Citation Needed” note too. Absolutely classic. I can’t believe that the mere fact that Ronald Regan didn’t get one isn’t proof enough that it is political.

😛😛😛

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/216 "2007-03-15T15:26:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Don’t Call Me Shirley]  
😛😛😛  
From the [Nobel Prize](http://www.conservapedia.com/Nobel_Prize) entry:

“The selection process has become political[Citation Needed], as the prize was not given to Ronald Reagan or Pope John Paul II, and has not been given to anyone who criticizes the theory of evolution.”

I **love** the “Citation Needed” note too. Absolutely classic. I can’t believe that the mere fact that Ronald Regan didn’t get one isn’t proof enough that it is political.

😛😛😛  
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‘Citation Needed’ is Right-Speak for ‘Facts Need Inventing’.

As for the whole Nobel Prize and Evolution thing - I’m going to go out on a limb, not do a Google search at all, and guess there is no Nobel Prize for Idiocy.

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_McCello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Alistair\_McCello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alistair_McCello)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/217 "2007-03-15T15:54:00Z")

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I had to jump back in with this nugget

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> The Sumerians also had literature: in 2000 B.C., they wrote “The Epic of Gilgamesh,” considered to be oldest fictional story ever written. It was based on a real person, however, who ruled a city-state in Sumer. He struggles with religious issues in the form of multiple gods, and the story seems to draw on some of the wisdom of the Bible.

As far as I know even biblical literalists say that the earliest biblical writings were written by Moses, who lived around 1500 BCE… I’m sorry, 1500 _BC_. I’m curious as to how a story written 500 years earlier was inspired by the Bible.

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/218 "2007-03-15T16:03:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Alistair McCello]  
As far as I know even biblical literalists say that the earliest biblical writings were written by Moses, who lived around 1500 BCE… I’m sorry, 1500 _BC_. I’m curious as to how a story written 500 years earlier was inspired by the Bible.  
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Because in the future, the Temporal Evangelist arm of the Local Cluster Baptist Convention (Reformed) will have bought the light to the savages.

Obviously. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/219 "2007-03-15T19:01:35Z")

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I wanna play!

Some of the lowlights from the evolution page, anyone?

[http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory\_of\_evolution](http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_evolution)

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> “We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, **in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories** (_emphasis mine_), because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.” - Richard Lewontin, ‘Billions and billions of demons’, The New York Review, January 9, 1997, p. 31 [36]

Gotta say that I, for one, welcome our new Sanitation, Penicillin, Vaccination, and Life Expectancy Of Over 30 Years Overlords… CMMV. Just-so stories? What does Kipling have to do with this, anyway…wait! The Mowgli connection! Now it all makes sense! We didn’t evolve from early apelike creatures… we were created and reared by wolves!!! Wait, that’s not right…

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> The most famous case of a hoax perpetrated on scientists in regards to the evolutionary view was the case of Piltdown man.[73] More recently, although it might not have been the result of a deliberate hoax, the Archaeoraptor was a large embarrassment to National Geographic. [74][75]

Zing! Take that, National Geopornographic! That’s what you get for showing those half-naked African ladies! Where’s John Ashcroft when you need him?

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> Given the aforementioned weaknesses in the evolutionary position and given that the history of science shows there have been a number of notable paradigm shifts [90][91], the scientific consensus argument for the macroevolutionary theory certainly cannot be reasonably called an invincable argument.

I don’t care if it’s just a typo, it still tickles my ribs!

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2007, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/220 "2007-03-16T02:48:33Z")

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[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Nobel\_Prize&oldid=40552](http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Nobel_Prize&oldid=40552)

Nobel Prize

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> In two cases, the Nobel Prize was denied to the person most responsible for the discovery apparently because they had been critical of the theory of evolution.[Citation Needed] No other plausible explanation has been advanced for these awards.[Citation Needed] A proposed remedy for this is to add a new Nobel Prize category that is more in line with Creation Science. In this proposal, in addition to the awards in “Physics”, “Chemistry”, “Literature”, “Peace”, and “Physiology or Medicine”, there will also be an “Utter Bullshit” category.

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