# "Conservapedia": The Right's answer to Wikipedia **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731 "2007-03-05T22:04:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/141 "2007-03-11T07:11:40Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] On the other hand, the Conservapedia article on [George W. Bush](http://www.conservapedia.com/George_W._Bush) does not even contain as much information as the Demopedia article and actually has a higher percentage of editorial comment (with rather little in the way of actual facts regarding the President). [/QUOTE] Come on now Tom, > [@Constipedia](#): > > Though the liberal media continues to disparage Bush’s handling of the economy, they often neglect to report the many aspects of the economy that Bush has improved. For example, during his term Exxon Mobile has posted the largest profit of any company in a signle year, and executive salaries have greatly increased as well but the best facts are right in the first paragraph > [@](#): > > Campaigning heavily on the notion that the United States should not be in the business of nation-building, He won the office by a narrow margin in the decisive State of Florida. A close analysis of the text reveals some interesting use of capital letters :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/142 "2007-03-11T07:13:34Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] I generally view Murdoch as less qualified to be _human_ than all but the most rabid members of the current administration, but do you have any evidence that Murdoch paid money to reduce the residency requirement or eliminate the education required for people applying to be naturalized? If he completed all the Congressionally mandated requirements for naturalization, I see no reason to say or imply that he “bought” his citizenship. His motive may have been one of which you disapprove, but I see no reason to cast aspersions on his actions without evidence. [/QUOTE] I forget where I first heard it, and googling turns up nothing that I’d consider authorative, but [this page says](http://scoop.epluribusmedia.org/story/2007/2/3/20443/36412) > [@](#): > > Murdoch, who was made **an American citizen by an act of Congress** because, otherwise, he could not own an American television network, should have his citizenship revoked and be deported back to Australia. (emphasis mine) [This one makes a similar statement:](http://mracid.blogspot.com/2006/11/simpson-confessional-desperation-ploy.html) > [@](#): > > You Republicans out there remember that it was the Gingrich **Congress that gave Murdoch citizenship through special legislation so that he would not only not have to undergo the usual naturalization routine** that the great majority of much more humble immigrants have to, but so that he could own U.S. television outlets knowing that he would turn those stations into conservative loudspeakers. (emphasis again mine) So it’s certainly a meme out there, and I imagine that someone with stronger googlefu than me could pin it down as to whether it’s an accurate one or not. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/143 "2007-03-11T07:17:02Z")
Fair enough. If it was a special Congressional naturalization, I suspect that there might, indeed, have been some payments made. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/144 "2007-03-11T07:23:18Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] Fair enough. If it was a special Congressional naturalization, I suspect that there might, indeed, have been some payments made. [/QUOTE] One of the sites I looked at, but didn’t link to, made a connection between Rupert getting his citizenship and the Newtster getting his very lucrative book deal. I didn’t link to it as it was a more rabidly anti-conservative site than the others. ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/145 "2007-03-11T18:00:49Z")
The mind boggles at the lack of control over content at that site. Hmmmm maybe that can be a good thing. Anyhow, I just signed up. I can think of a few useful topics to start. ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/146 "2007-03-11T18:08:28Z")
I looked at “ketchup” – SDMB is listed as a reference. 😃 [http://www.conservapedia.com/Ketchup](http://www.conservapedia.com/Ketchup) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/147 "2007-03-11T19:14:33Z")
[QUOTE=MoodIndigo1] I looked at “ketchup” – SDMB is listed as a reference. 😃 [http://www.conservapedia.com/Ketchup](http://www.conservapedia.com/Ketchup) [/QUOTE] Not the SDMB; one of Cecil’s columns. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/148 "2007-03-11T19:32:48Z")
[http://www.conservapedia.com/Potatoe](http://www.conservapedia.com/Potatoe) 😛 ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/149 "2007-03-11T19:54:30Z")
[QUOTE=Brain Wreck] [http://www.conservapedia.com/Potatoe](http://www.conservapedia.com/Potatoe) 😛 [/QUOTE] Aww, they deleted it already… this is what it was… > [@](#): > > The potatoe (Solanum tuberosum, invariably misspelled by liberals as potato) is a perennial plant of the Solanaceae, or nightshade, family, commonly grown for its starchy tuber. The potatoe is an important ingredient of Freedom Fries. Potatoes are the world’s most widely grown tuber crop, and the fourth largest crop in terms of fresh produce (after rice, wheat, and corn (maize)). The potatoe originated in southern Peru and is important to the culture of the Andes, where farmers grow many different varieties that have a remarkable diversity of colors and shapes. Potatoes spread from the Americas to the rest of the world after European colonization in the late 1400s and early 1500s and have since become an important field crop. The potatoe is also often strongly associated with Idahoe, Prince Edward Island, Ireland and Russia, after having been adopted by these regions after the Columbian Exchange. However, the potatoe native to Peru and was first cultivated by the Incas. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/150 "2007-03-11T20:23:27Z")
[The entry on Judaism is good](http://www.conservapedia.com/Judaism): > [@](#): > > Jews do not consider the Old Testament to be “Old”. For Jews, the Old Testament is “The Bible”. They also do not omit the teachings of Jesus as Jesus was never part of this canon. Jews do believe Jesus was shot out of a cannon, but regard Jesus as a nice guy anyway. > > Jews do not eat pigs, as they hold the pig to be sacred above all else. The Star of David, the official symbol of the Jews and Jewishness and the patches good Jews sew into their clothing, is a representation of what a pig snout looks like after you have just talked to God, which the Jews call Yahoo. (God, not the pig. Unless God appears as a pig, as He did to David Ben&Jerry’s right before he drove the Muslims out of Arabia and into the Middle East.) The official mascot of Jewishness is a pig called Oinkel, a good Jewish name the equivalent of Michael. Jews frequently feed pigs their foreskins. > > Not all conservatives like Jews. Mel Gibson accused Jews of starting all the wars in the world, creating AIDS, encouraging homosexuality, and making fun of him because his foreskin is frequently visible below his kilt in the movie _Braveheart_. Hutton Gibson, Mel’s father, was in a concentration camp during WWII; he sustained minor injuries falling off a guard tower. > > This entry should be continually updated for accuracy. There are many accurate websites to refer to, including [ou.org](http://ou.org), [uscj.org](http://uscj.org), [uahc.org](http://uahc.org), etc. This entry also needs to call its mother and not think it’s such a big shot conservative mouthpiece that it can ignore its own flesh and blood. Twenty-two years its mother raised it, and a phone call is too much to ask? If the entry has changed, look in the edit history of the page. And I cannot keep a secret: The majority of what I quoted (the funny stuff) is mine. **dubya** lives! This could be better than Uncyclopedia. ---
**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/151 "2007-03-12T01:53:50Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Not the SDMB; one of Cecil’s columns. [/QUOTE] Sorry, thanks for correcting that. I was multitasking and must have had a brainslip. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/152 "2007-03-12T03:57:02Z")
Actually, it’s called a brain fart. I guess you had another one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/153 "2007-03-12T04:12:09Z")
[QUOTE=Conservapedia Main Page] Christianity receives no credit for the great advances and discoveries it inspired, such as those of the Renaissance. [/QUOTE] You mean, like, secular humanism? The rejection of pretty much all the Church dogma relating to the origin of the universe? The slow realization that government doesn’t have to be a theocracy? Well thank God we had Christianity around to help us discover all that stuff. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/154 "2007-03-12T05:27:14Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] You mean, like, secular humanism? The rejection of pretty much all the Church dogma relating to the origin of the universe? The slow realization that government doesn’t have to be a theocracy? Well thank God we had Christianity around to help us discover all that stuff. [/QUOTE] It might be true. Only Christian dominated society ever moved away from religious domination. Perhaps there is something in Christianity that permits the development of such thoughts that is not present in Islam, Confucianism, Hinduism, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/155 "2007-03-12T08:24:48Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] Fair enough. If it was a special Congressional naturalization, I suspect that there might, indeed, have been some payments made. [/QUOTE] In fact Murdoch’s US citizenship was acquired entirely legit, but again the vast boilers and pistons of the Media Empire have powered its juggernauts to seek out and eliminate all the evidence so that Rupe’s reputation is untarnished. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/156 "2007-03-12T11:36:09Z")
[QUOTE=Sevastopol] In fact Murdoch’s US citizenship was acquired entirely legit, but again the vast boilers and pistons of the Media Empire have powered its juggernauts to seek out and eliminate all the evidence so that Rupe’s reputation is untarnished. [/QUOTE] You’re saying that Murdoch went the the normal processes to become naturalized, but then the U.S. news media (of which he is a substantial portion) went out of their way to misreport or otherwise obfuscate that process so that now he is _perceived_ to have bought his way into his citizenship so that his reputation as an unethical money-flining goon remains intact? ---
**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/157 "2007-03-12T16:12:33Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] It might be true. Only Christian dominated society ever moved away from religious domination. Perhaps there is something in Christianity that permits the development of such thoughts that is not present in Islam, Confucianism, Hinduism, etc. [/QUOTE] So are you counting the People’s Republic of China to be under religious domination? If so, that would be a rather unorthodox interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![ReuvenB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@ReuvenB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReuvenB)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/158 "2007-03-12T16:30:57Z")
Have they shut down account creation again? I can’t make an account to argue that all dates should be changed to AUC. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/159 "2007-03-12T16:59:37Z")
[QUOTE=tomndebb] It might be true. Only Christian dominated society ever moved away from religious domination. Perhaps there is something in Christianity that permits the development of such thoughts that is not present in Islam, Confucianism, Hinduism, etc. [/QUOTE] One could also argue that perhaps something is _lacking_ in Christianity that means people are more likely to have alternate thoughts. I’m sure you’d agree, so i’m not really looking for a debate. Just pointing out that you can phrase it as a good point or a bad point. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731/160 "2007-03-12T17:12:40Z")
[QUOTE=mrklutz] So are you counting the People’s Republic of China to be under religious domination? If so, that would be a rather unorthodox interpretation. [/QUOTE] China changed under the multiple influences of Christain missionaries and Marxist missionaries–both imports from Christian Europe. There was very little internal movement toward secularism and many of the brightest thinkers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries who _might_ have spared China both the warlords and the Marxists (but failed) were very often quite Confucian in their approach. Similarly, India (which is still troubled by sectarian violence), developed most of its secular aspects under the Brits. I am not making any serious claim that Christianity enlightened the world. (As **Revenant Threshold** points out, perhaps Christianity is simply the first large-scale failure as a religion ( 😛 )). I am only pointing out that there is a correlation (with no discerned causation) between the development of secular societies and the development and spread of Christianity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservapedia-the-rights-answer-to-wikipedia/394731.md?page=9)