# Conservative and right wing journalists that have not drunk the Trump Flavor-Aid. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 6, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134 "2020-06-06T01:39:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/1 "2020-06-06T01:39:02Z")
I know some of you will have issues with the names I list. I am going with what I personally see and hear, mostly on PBS and NPR. **Jonah Goldberg**. He seems to have disappeared from NPR, used to hear him interviewed fairly often. When he appeared on NPR he seemed to recognize Trump for exactly what he is. **Margaret Hoover**. I see her show on PBS almost every week. She is clearly conservative but I have seen her ask conservative guests some pretty tough questions. Don’t ask me for cites but I have seen it. **David Brooks** He is usually on the PBS Friday news round up, that’s where I see him. He’s been an anti-Trumper from the beginning. He works in the conservative view point but not the Trumpian view point. Who else should I check out? ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/2 "2020-06-06T02:31:00Z")
George Will has shifted from his “Trump is uncouth” shtick all the way over to [“throw them all out.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this-taste-of-ashes/2020/06/01/1a80ecf4-a425-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/3 "2020-06-06T02:31:56Z")
The Bulwark ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/4 "2020-06-06T02:33:28Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > George Will has shifted from his “Trump is uncouth” shtick all the way over to [“throw them all out.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-one-should-want-four-more-years-of-this-taste-of-ashes/2020/06/01/1a80ecf4-a425-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html) Yeah, I meant to mention Will. I read his latest. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/5 "2020-06-06T02:36:56Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > The Bulwark I will try to listen to their podcast. I listen to podcasts all day at work, will check it out at work Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/6 "2020-06-06T02:39:40Z")
Ann Coulter, of all people, has turned on Trump. _That’s_ a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/7 "2020-06-06T02:49:22Z")
I listen to [The Politics Guys](https://politicsguys.com/) regularly. The main guy is a Dem but he has right leaning co-hosts and they get their fair chance to express their views. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/8 "2020-06-06T15:39:20Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > Ann Coulter, of all people, has turned on Trump. _That’s_ a surprise. For not being awful enough? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/9 "2020-06-06T16:14:09Z")
Bill Kristol has always been a never-Trumper. George Conway Peter Wehner Bret Stephens P.J. O’Rourke ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/10 "2020-06-06T17:41:21Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Bill Kristol has always been a never-Trumper. > George Conway > Peter Wehner > Bret Stephens > P.J. O’Rourke P.J has always been so as well. So much so that he said in 2016 about Hillary: “She’s wrong about absolutely everything, but she’s wrong within normal parameters.” Implying that trump was wrong outside of normal parameters. Seems pretty prophetic. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/11 "2020-06-06T19:54:18Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > For not being awful enough? Yeah, that’s pretty much it. People have been talking about Coulter criticizing Trump; what they tend to leave out is that Coulter has been criticizing the fact that she feels he’s dragging his feet on doing all the awful stuff he promised. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/12 "2020-06-06T19:55:53Z")
David Frum is a good example of this; he is the former George W. Bush speechwriter who coined the term “Axis of Evil.” He has been shouting from the rooftops that the emperor has no clothes since this whole thing started. Steve Schmidt is another; he was John McCain’s campaign manager in 2008. Al Franken interviewed him on his podcast recently, and they had a really great discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/13 "2020-06-06T21:08:37Z")
Long-time readers of _The Washington Post_ will know, of course, that Jennifer Rubin and Max Boot are conservative columnists who have been Never-Trumpers from the start. For at least three years now, their columns have been so single-mindedly anti-Trump that you wouldn’t even know they are conservatives. They’ve hardly ever written a column on any other conservative issues for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/14 "2020-06-06T22:39:28Z")
Ann Coulter mainly cares about the wall so that’s why she is attacking Trump now. She still attacks liberals just as much as before. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/15 "2020-06-16T21:44:30Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > The Bulwark Thanks for the recommendation. I finally got around to listening to a couple episodes and it’s pretty much what I was looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/16 "2020-06-18T22:24:39Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > Yeah, I meant to mention Will. I read his latest. pretty much all of the old guard conservative op ed writers at the Washington Post turned against Trump. [Michael Gerson](https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/michael-gerson/), [Kathleen Parker](https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/kathleen-parker/)[Jennifer Rubin](https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/jennifer-rubin/?itid=sf_opinions), and [Robert Samuelson](https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/robert-j-samuelson/?itid=sf_opinions) come to mind, as well as [Charles Krauthammer](https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/charles-krauthammer/) before he died. Eventually they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel, and hired [Henry Olsen](https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/henry-olsen/) and [Marc Thiessen](https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/marc-a-thiessen/) to provide some semblance of of opposing viewpoints. But their opinion pieces are generally just fact free regurgitated Republican talking points unworthy of the Post. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/17 "2020-06-23T20:28:04Z")
A number of current writers at _National Review_ as well. David French, Charles C.W. Cooke, Kevin Williamson are examples. Actually. David French left NR to go to “The Dispatch”, an anti-Trump conservative site formed by Jonah Goldberg and Steven Hayes. Rick Wilson is another never-Trump Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-and-right-wing-journalists-that-have-not-drunk-the-trump-flavor-aid/855134/18 "2020-06-25T13:03:46Z")
I listen to KCRW’s Left, Right & Center podcast. On the right, their regular is Rich Lowry of the National Review and is an anti-Trumpist. Lately they’ve had instead Michael Steele, former RNC chair, who is very anti-Trump.