# Conservative beer? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 14, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671 "2023-04-14T14:45:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/21 "2023-04-15T03:03:41Z")
Hubs took a stroll down the beer aisle at the grocery store yesterday. All of the Bud products were on sale and he is pretty sure the other cheap beers had gone up a dollar or so. (I’m already told my money guy to invest in Bud stock when it starts its upward bounce, I know it will recover in almost no time at all.) ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/22 "2023-04-15T18:33:34Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > I have a case of Bud Lite Lime that someone once brought and I can’t get rid of or find a use for. Is there anyway I can rebrand this as “Bud Rite Conservative Caucus Citrus Brew” and sell it for an exorbitant amount of money? The use of chemical weapons should be a last resort. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/23 "2023-04-15T19:09:32Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > The use of chemical weapons should be a last resort. This is why I haven’t shipped it to Ukraine with a label saying, “In last resort, pull tab and throw at enemy.” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/24 "2023-05-05T18:37:18Z")
I don’t understand the outrage on this issue. This is very different than the child welfare concerns that people seem to be focused on. I mean Dylan Mulvaney is an adult. The consumers of beer are adults. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/25 "2023-05-05T18:41:19Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > This is very different than the child welfare concerns that people seem to be focused on. I mean Dylan Mulvaney is an adult. I think the right’s feelings about trans issues extend far beyond any purported concern for children. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/26 "2023-05-05T18:47:17Z")
She’s not an athlete either. And its not exactly clear that this is a left/right issue. Painting JK Rowlings as “right” is pretty inconsistent with everything she has done and said outside of this one issue. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/27 "2023-05-05T18:57:54Z")
Athletics are just an excuse to get less transphobic people on board. They basically want trans people shunned from society, or worse. And, it’s just the right’s way of finding a convenient minority that many people find odd. Scapegoat them, get your voters riled up about bullshit non-issues, cruise to electoral victory. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/28 "2023-05-05T19:03:44Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > And its not exactly clear that this is a left/right issue. This is a thread about “conservative dad’s” “ultraright” beer. It’s not clear that what is a left/right issue? ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/29 "2023-05-05T19:29:33Z")
I was responding to “the right’s feelings about trans issues” There are people who are not on the right that have feelings about trans issues that may depart from the general consensus here. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/30 "2023-05-05T19:35:16Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > There are people who are not on the right that have feelings about trans issues that may depart from the general consensus here. Yes, but this tread is about a “conservative dad’s **ultraright** beer.” We’re not discussing how people on the left feel about trans issues. People on the right are attacking the very existence of trans people, like objecting to women who appear with bud light beer, even though it has nothing to do with children or athletics. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/31 "2023-05-05T19:43:49Z")
“The very existence of trans people?” That seems hyperbolic. I am pointing out that the reservations about trans issues are not coming exclusively from the right. JK Rowlings concern is not limited to children or sports. I think she would object to the notion that trans women are merely a subset of women. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/32 "2023-05-05T19:45:27Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Painting JK Rowlings as “right” is pretty inconsistent with everything she has done and said outside of this one issue. Look at who JKR had made friends with over that issue and tell me that this isn’t a Left v Right issue with a straight face. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/33 "2023-05-05T19:46:07Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > I am pointing out that the reservations about trans issues are not coming exclusively from the right. Agreed. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > “The very existence of trans people?” > That seems hyperbolic. I wish. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/34 "2023-05-05T19:48:18Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > I am pointing out that the reservations about trans issues are not coming exclusively from the right. > JK Rowlings concern is not limited to children or sports. I think she would object to the notion that trans women are merely a subset of women. Dude, we’re talking about beer and the people who seek to politicize it for…reasons. Take your _Harry Potter_ analysis to its own thread for people who like to obsess about fictional sports involving flying around on brooms and doing…stuff, I guess. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/35 "2023-05-05T19:57:43Z")
As for the beer, the project is probably pining for the fjords. > **[Who Is Actually Brewing That Right-Wing Grifter's Ultra-Conservative Beer?...](https://www.themarysue.com/who-is-brewing-that-ultra-conservative-beer-after-bud-light-controversy/)** > > A right-wing grifter promised an anti-woke beer as a response to Bud Light backlash. But who's brewing it? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/36 "2023-05-05T20:01:10Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > “The very existence of trans people?” > That seems hyperbolic. Did you not notice the recent kerfuffle about [a CPAC speaker literally calling for the “eradication” of transgender identity?](https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-knowles-calls-for-eradication-of-transgender-people-at-conservative-political-action-conference) > [@](#): > > Michael Knowles—right-wing political commentator associated with the Daily Wire—said “for the good of society… transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely” at the Conservative Political Action Conference Saturday afternoon. No, I’m not claiming that he or other rightwing transphobes are planning to literally murder transgender people for daring to exist as transgender (although sadly it wouldn’t surprise me if some of them are on board with that; they certainly don’t seem to have a problem with actively promoting rhetoric and policies that encourage violence against trans people). But it is very clear that opposition to the existence of transgender identity itself—the very existence of trans people—is indeed a position genuinely held and freely platformed within the transphobe Right. There’s nothing at all “hyperbolic” about stating that. ---
**Author:** ![EastUmpqua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eastumpqua/32/6025_2.png) [@EastUmpqua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EastUmpqua)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/37 "2023-05-05T20:18:51Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Look at who JKR had made friends with over that issue and tell me that this isn’t a Left v Right issue with a straight face. I thought this whole tread was supposed to be funny. Said with a big grin on my face. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/38 "2023-05-05T20:19:50Z")
Who has she made friends with? I think it would take a lot of rationalization to label her as “right” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/39 "2023-05-05T20:27:28Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > No, I’m not claiming that he or other rightwing transphobes are planning to literally murder transgender people for daring to exist as transgender (although sadly it wouldn’t surprise me if some of them are on board with that; they certainly don’t seem to have a problem with actively promoting rhetoric and policies that encourage violence against trans people). > **[MMA fighter’s call for public executions of Trans allies exposes Elon Musk’s...](https://bloodyelbow.com/2023/05/02/mma-fighter-elon-musk-twitter-blue/)** > > Former MMA fighter Jake Shields asked his followers whether they would support public executions for Trans allies. Many blue-checked Twitter accounts did. Elon Musk was not happy. > **[Ex-GOP Gov Candidate Calls For ‘Firing Squad’ For Trans Rights Supporters](https://www.mississippifreepress.org/22283/ex-gop-gov-candidate-calls-for-firing-squad-for-trans-rights-supporters-political-foes)** > > Robert Foster called for the execution of political foes who support the rights of transgender people by firing squad. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671/40 "2023-05-05T20:34:38Z")
Ah OK, so people are attacking the notion that trans people exist. I thought the comment was referring to the notion that genocide was being contemplated (as some people seem to think Michael Knowles is doing). Gender dysphoria is clearly a thing and transitioning is clearly something that some people do. There is no arguing about whether transwomen/transmen exist. I don’t really understand what Michael Knowles is trying to say. I mean, it seems to me that if you eliminate the term transwoman then you are left with “men who feel like they are women and choose to live their lives as women” which seems like a very inefficient way of saying transwoman. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-beer/982671.md?page=3)