# Conservative Dopers, please explain the concept of "FemiNazi" to me **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2003, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889 "2003-10-16T23:28:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/21 "2003-10-17T18:12:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*OK, I’ve got no dog in this fight at all, okay. > > So someone just tell me what the hell that ‘sign’ thing means, will you? I don’t get that at all. \*\* I also have no dog in this fight, but that whole sign bit had me totally confused also. After puzzling over it for a while it suddenly hit me. He’s talking about replacing arrow symbols which are vaugely phallic with “3” which can sort of resemble a pair of breasts. The meaning of “3\<—” then becomes obvious. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/22 "2003-10-17T19:22:55Z")
It is quite disturbing to note that a radio talk show host would use a stretch of a metaphor in an ad hominum attack. I think we all owe **Mr. Evil Breakfast** our sincerest thanks for pointing out Rush’s offense in this area. I propose that all future ad hominum attacks by non-elected pundits be accompanied by 3 independant and verifiable sources. The very foundation of modern political discourse is at stake. While we are at it, let’s deconstruct other political ad hominums. I’ll go first. Ivory Tower. Completely fallacious metaphor used to express the opinion that liberals are out of touch with reality. Not only have I never met anyone who actually lives in an ivory tower, but liberals would be against the harvesting of elephants or rhinos to build such a tower. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/23 "2003-10-17T19:34:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by davidm \* > \*\*I also have no dog in this fight, but that whole sign bit had me totally confused also. After puzzling over it for a while it suddenly hit me. He’s talking about replacing arrow symbols which are vaugely phallic with “3” which can sort of resemble a pair of breasts. > The meaning of “3\<—” then becomes obvious. \*\* Ah. Ahhh! But I think he meant it to be ass and not tits. [From here.](http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Rush_Limbaugh_Abortion.htm) > [@](#): > > Women obsessed with abortion & intolerance are “feminazis” > Given the National Organization for Women’s membership and proclivities, it’s no wonder that people now view the NOW gang as being obsessed with only two issues: abortion rights and lesbian rights. > I prefer to call the most obnoxious feminists what they really are: feminazis. The term describes any female who is intolerant of any point of view that challenges militant feminism. I often use it to describe women who are obsessed with perpetuating a modern-day holocaust: abortion. > > A feminazi is a woman to whom the most important thing in life is seeing to it that as many abortions as possible are performed. Their unspoken reasoning is quite simple. Abortion is the single greatest avenue for militant women to exercise their quest for power and advance their belief that men aren’t necessary. Nothing matter but me, says the feminazi; the is an unviable tissue mass. Feminazis have adopted abortion as a kind of sacrament for their religion/politics of alienation and bitterness. > > Source: The Way Things Ought To Be, p.192-93 Jul 2, 1992 So which 12 women in NOW is he refering to? Maybe the drugs blurred his vision and those 12 FemiNazis looked like a whole lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/24 "2003-10-17T19:45:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zoe \* > **Don’t you support equal opportunity for women? > Don’t you support equal pay for equal work? > Then you’re a feminist.** I support equal opportunity and pay for women, but I am not a feminist. I’m just a logical, thinking human being. Please don’t attach labels to me. ---
**Author:** ![Mithril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mithril/32/3517_2.png) [@Mithril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithril)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/25 "2003-10-17T19:46:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pervert \* > [ > > 1. The first paragraph clearly states that he never considered there to be more than 12 feminazis, so it is not surprising that you have never met one. Also it specifically says that he does not consider the term to apply to equal pay for equal work. I have listened to Rush a maximum of 4 times in my life, yet at least two of those times, he ranted about Feminazis. If there are only 12 of them in the country, why does he feel the need to go on so about them? It seems that any other special interest group made up of only a dozen people would get totally ignored. FWIW, my impression from the few times I’ve listened is that Rush does a lot of backtracking on issues. His definition as written on his website is probably another case of his reluctance to stick by what he says. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/26 "2003-10-17T19:53:50Z")
Sheesh. It’s such an easy concept to grasp, yet you feign ignorance. Please explain the concept “water” to me. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/27 "2003-10-17T20:02:11Z")
The few overly zealous and humorless feminists gave rise to this joke: Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: THAT’S NOT FUNNY!! ---
**Author:** ![Daisy\_Cutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@Daisy\_Cutter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daisy_Cutter)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/28 "2003-10-17T20:03:03Z")
Yes, it is an easy concept to understand, and the OP knows exactly what it means, which is why this stupid OP was moved from GD to the pit, where such garbage belongs. FEMINAZI = hardcore feminists with totalitarian views (therefore the nazi staple) And many FEMINAZIS are ugly females, that look more like men. Perhaps they need to get some more real penises inserted into them a bit more often, and perhaps they will lighten up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/29 "2003-10-17T20:28:55Z")
**Lord Ashtar** , as a logical, thinking human being (your labels, not mine), please consider the following: According to _Webster’s_, a feminist is one who supports the theory of political, social and economic equality of the sexes. _Webster’s_ is generally considered a recognized authority on the way that words are used to label concepts in English in our society. If you do not support the theory of political, social and economic equality of the sexes (which is a little more specific than what I said earlier), then I can understand your objection to being called a _feminist_. If you _do_ support them, then by definition – _literally_, you are a feminist. I am not the one who chose the label for you and I make no judgments about you. Are you familiar with syllogisms? ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/30 "2003-10-17T20:32:08Z")
Good grief, **Daisy Cutter** , I usually don’t go around saying “that’s sexist” but what you said was appallingly sexist. And I’m a typical Man Show-watching dude. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/31 "2003-10-17T20:33:02Z")
> [@](#): > > **Angel** : I invariably think of a college student because, in my experience, that age group is when you find beliefs that have the ideally annoying combination of being very radical, very unbending, and very intolerant. Funny. I usually think of people about Rush Limbaugh’s age. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Evil\_Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Mr.Evil\_Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Evil_Breakfast)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/32 "2003-10-17T20:34:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Daisy Cutter \* > \*\*Yes, it is an easy concept to understand, and the OP knows exactly what it means, which is why this stupid OP was moved from GD to the pit, where such garbage belongs. > > FEMINAZI = hardcore feminists with totalitarian views (therefore the nazi staple) > > And many FEMINAZIS are ugly females, that look more like men. > > Perhaps they need to get some more real penises inserted into them a bit more often, and perhaps they will lighten up a bit. \*\* Wow, I’m astonished that you were able to read my mind and find that I knew exactly what Rush meant.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: :dubious: Your attitudes towards women in general went out of fashion over 20 years ago, dsespite Rush and his ilk’s desperate attempts to bring them back. Don’t forget your club when you go back to your cave. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/33 "2003-10-17T20:47:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Daisy Cutter \* > \*\*And many FEMINAZIS are ugly females, that look more like men. > > Perhaps they need to get some more real penises inserted into them a bit more often, and perhaps they will lighten up a bit. \*\* Aw, and I was hoping that just once, someone, somewhere might get through a conversation about feminism without a dumbass comment like that being made. Way to fight the notion that men are disgusting, sex-obsessed pigs, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/34 "2003-10-17T20:51:36Z")
That is not, of course, to say that men are disgusting, sex-obsessed pigs, nor that most women think of them as such. However, suggestions that a woman who is unhappy with the way women in general are treated just needs some deep dickin’ to solve her problems sure as hell won’t win you any points with those women who do think men are sex-obsessed pigs. Hell, it won’t win you any points with most other women, either. ---
**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/35 "2003-10-17T20:55:55Z")
Ahem. Contrary to the impression you may have got from the dictionary, there are feminists who do not define themselves by “equal pay for equal work,” or “equal opportunities.” Contrary to the charming quotes from above, there are feminists who are not enamoured with abortion and some who are anti-abortion in all circumstances. Furthermore, and although this has not yet been brought up, there are feminists who like men, feminists who do not need to get laid more, feminists who wear make-up, feminists who don’t mind if you hold the door open for them, feminists who think Ms magazine is a load of crap, feminists who you would be quite mistaken to call “liberal” - whether because they are conservative, socialist, radical, Marxist, etc. And so on, ad nauseum. Yes it is extremely aggravating that people who will never agree with each other all use the same label. Kind of like other groups of people we talk about, like disabled people, or West Virginians, or Muslims. Get it? If you want to know how a feminist thinks - _ask a feminist_. If you want to know what “feminists” want, you will forever be frustrated, just as we are when we try to determine what “muslims” or “christians” want. Generalizations are no more appropriate here than in any other context. There are things they have in common but they cannot, CANNOT be simplified to “They want equality for men and women.” Please stop saying that. If you are truly interested, go do some reading - there’s _miles_ of it. But don’t think that you can say conclusively what feminists think. ---
**Author:** ![Daisy\_Cutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@Daisy\_Cutter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daisy_Cutter)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/36 "2003-10-17T21:02:20Z")
Oh, please. . . . :o Don’t try to paint me as the bad guy here or anything. :eek: I’m all for equal rights. I’m talking about the extreme, frothing at the mouth ones. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/37 "2003-10-17T21:33:08Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Zoe_ > **Funny. I usually think of people about Rush Limbaugh’s age.** I don’t have a lot of interaction with people around his age. . .I guess I’m just hoping that some of my friends’ll grow out of it by then. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/38 "2003-10-17T21:35:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Daisy Cutter \* > \*\*Perhaps they need to get some more real penises inserted into them a bit more often, and perhaps they will lighten up a bit. \*\* Jesus fucking Christ. Do you have _any_ idea how obnoxiously offensive this is? ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/39 "2003-10-17T22:28:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \* > Way to fight the notion that men are disgusting, sex-obsessed pigs, buddy. **Conservative** men are disgusting, sex-obsessed pigs, please. Us liberal types are all sensitive new-age-kinda guys, remember? 🙂 > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Cervaise_ > Jesus fucking Christ. Do you have any idea how obnoxiously offensive this is? You must not have met **Daisy Cutter** before – neanderthal, clueless comments are his specialty. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889/40 "2003-10-17T22:31:17Z")
Here’s the definition from the glossary of Rush’s terms at the end of _The Way Things Ought to Be_: > [@](#): > > **Feminazi** : Widely misunderstood by most to simply mean “feminist.” Not so, boobala. A Feminazi is a feminist to whom the most important thing in life is ensuring that as many abortions as possible occur. There are fewer than twenty-five known Femizazis in the United States. So there it says 25. At the time, IIRC, his ire was mostly focused at Patty Ireland and Gloria “all sex is rape” Steinem. Since those two and other feminist leaders of the early 90’s have sort of fallen out of the public eye, I don’t really hear him refer to specific feminazis anymore. But I only catch his show a few hours a week, so it’s possible I’m missing it. As for my own take on hardcore feminism, hey they’re just advocates fighting for privilege in an adversarial society. Men’s rights groups are doing the same thing. Men and women come into direct conflict quite a bit, so I see nothing wrong with treating gender at least in part as an adversarial conflict and fighting vigorously for one’s side. The only thing I can’t stand about feminists is that the Women’s Studies programs have caused that idiot Foucault to be considered a legitimate philosopher. I’ll take 10 feminists over one postmodernist any day of the week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-please-explain-the-concept-of-feminazi-to-me/207889.md?page=3)