# Conservative Dopers...Trump's accomplishments so far

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 2, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653 "2017-08-02T21:42:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/61 "2017-08-05T16:06:27Z")

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How the\*\* FUCK\*\* is Gorsuch an accomplishment?

He only needed 50 votes and Repubs have 54.

When you needed 60, what percentage ever got shot down?

Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/62 "2017-08-05T16:08:14Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Still, a million jobs so far is a boon to his political viability. We can argue over whether it’s an accomplishment or not, but Presidents get the credit and the blame from voters for this stuff.

Obama added 2 million jobs during 2016.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/63 "2017-08-05T16:10:24Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> When unemployment is already so low, it’s hard to add more jobs. Right now it’s at a 16 year low.

JOBS JOBS JOBS is a solution in search of a problem.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/64 "2017-08-05T17:39:36Z")

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Jobs and Jobs; what is Jobs!?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/65 "2017-08-05T20:13:10Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> JOBS JOBS JOBS is a solution in search of a problem.

There are many problems for which jobs are a solution.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/66 "2017-08-05T22:29:53Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Only because he forgot he can veto.

He didn’t want to be overridden. What I don’t understand is why he didn’t just let it become law without his signature. Hasn’t anybody in the white house read the constitution?

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/67 "2017-08-05T22:43:02Z")

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> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#):
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> How the\*\* FUCK\*\* is Gorsuch an accomplishment?  
> He only needed 50 votes and Repubs have 54.  
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It’s a fair point. I suspect there are two answers:

[ol]  
[li]There’s not much else that Trump fans can point to, so it HAS to be a Momentous Achievement. Otherwise, they’ve got nothing.[/li][li]Trump COULD have screwed it up royally, by ignoring what those around him (the RNC, the Heritage Foundation, etc.) advised, and choosing someone completely unsuitable, such as Gary Busey. So in accordance with the Low Expectations Bar associated with Trump, choosing a respectable mainstream candidate wins Trump points.[/li][/ol]

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/68 "2017-08-05T22:55:00Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It’s a fair point. I suspect there are two answers:
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> [ol]  
> [li]There’s not much else that Trump fans can point to, so it HAS to be a Momentous Achievement. Otherwise, they’ve got nothing.[/li][li]Trump COULD have screwed it up royally, by ignoring what those around him (the RNC, the Heritage Foundation, etc.) advised, and choosing someone completely unsuitable, such as Gary Busey. So in accordance with the Low Expectations Bar associated with Trump, choosing a respectable mainstream candidate wins Trump points.[/li][/ol]

It’s an accomplishment on the scale of paying for groceries or taking a piss.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/69 "2017-08-05T22:58:17Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Hasn’t anybody in the white house read the constitution?

Read it? Hell, I’m half expecting one of those fourth rate minds to introduce it in the next batch of MAGA Executive Orders.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/70 "2017-08-05T22:59:41Z")

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> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#):
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> It’s an accomplishment on the scale of paying for groceries or taking a piss.

Trump’s never done the former and has a lot of trouble with the latter.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/71 "2017-08-05T23:02:33Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Hasn’t anybody in the white house read the constitution?

Are you kidding? It’s more than 140 characters and even worse, doesn’t mention Trump _anywhere_.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/72 "2017-08-06T15:45:20Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> He didn’t want to be overridden. What I don’t understand is why he didn’t just let it become law without his signature. Hasn’t anybody in the white house read the constitution?

Probably so that he could hold his little signing ceremony, show the teacher his work, and say “See? I was tough on Russia.”

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/73 "2017-08-07T00:27:55Z")

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While I think Trump is a disaster both presidentially and personally, in the interest of fairness what had Obama and Bush43 accomplished in their first half-years so we have a standard for comparison?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/74 "2017-08-07T00:51:55Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> When unemployment is already so low, it’s hard to add more jobs. Right now it’s at a 16 year low.

So much for [Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/2), and other nonsense prophecies about the ACA.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/75 "2017-08-07T03:21:44Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> While I think Trump is a disaster both presidentially and personally, in the interest of fairness what had Obama and Bush43 accomplished in their first half-years so we have a standard for comparison?

Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize (I thought that was over the top, btw, before he’d actually done anything, but he did try to live up to it). Any bets on Trump matching that?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/76 "2017-08-07T05:13:14Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize (I thought that was over the top, btw, before he’d actually done anything, but he did try to live up to it). Any bets on Trump matching that?

Obama bombed like seven different countries (ETA: and it’s entirely possible I’ve forgotten one or two). In what way(s) did he “try to live up to it” in your mind?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/77 "2017-08-07T07:13:44Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Obama bombed like seven different countries (ETA: and it’s entirely possible I’ve forgotten one or two). In what way(s) did he “try to live up to it” in your mind?

All seven of which were based on targeting terrorists, but thank you for playing. Funny how you support it except when it’s a Democrat doing the firing.

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> All seven of which were based on targeting terrorists, but thank you for playing. Funny how you support it except when it’s a Democrat doing the firing.

Technically speaking, Bush targeted a genocidal dictator and a number of terrorists. In both cases, we’re effectively talking policing missions.

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> All seven of which were based on targeting terrorists, but thank you for playing. Funny how you support it except when it’s a Democrat doing the firing.

I always support bombing terrorists, including when Obama did it. I just wouldn’t call it ‘[trying] to live up to’ [the Nobel Peace Prize]. If it is, where the hell is GWB’s Nobel Peace Prize?

And my question was a serious one that I’d appreciate if you would answer: In what way(s) did he “try to live up to it” in your mind?

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I always support bombing terrorists, including when Obama did it. I just wouldn’t call it ‘[trying] to live up to’ [the Nobel Peace Prize]. If it is, where the hell is GWB’s Nobel Peace Prize?
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> And my question was a serious one that I’d appreciate if you would answer: In what way(s) did he “try to live up to it” in your mind?

Despite every justification and plenty of opportunities, he resisted the temptation of punching Trump in the face. I think that level of restraint alone deserves at least a NPP nomination. 😉

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