# Conservative Dopers...Trump's accomplishments so far **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 2, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653 "2017-08-02T21:42:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/81 "2017-08-07T15:11:23Z")
His accomplishments? Gorsuch… Gorsuch… Gorsuch… That’s about it. Otherwise, Trump’s Administration has been the train wreck I expected. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/82 "2017-08-07T15:18:23Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > His accomplishments? Gorsuch… Gorsuch… Gorsuch… > > That’s about it. Otherwise, Trump’s Administration has been the train wreck I expected. Even that decision was made for him by Republican leadership. He was told whom to appoint and did as he was told. As a reward, he continues to get two scoops of ice cream. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/83 "2017-08-07T15:20:58Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Despite every justification and plenty of opportunities, he resisted the temptation of punching Trump in the face. I think that level of restraint alone deserves at least a NPP nomination. 😉 I suspect that Obama feels a certain amount of shame at not being able to carry HRC over the finish line, in spite of her poor campaign. He probably thought of himself as a more talented surrogate / spokesperson / campaigner prior to November 2016 than he does now. Still, I’d expect a man that has been described as “[cerebral](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/politics/obama-visits-orlando/index.html)”, “[dignified](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/barack-obama-president-legacy-transformational-transactional-214672)”, “[professorial](http://www.politico.com/story/2012/10/press-one-word-describes-obama-082023)”, and “[aloof](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/08/a-brief-history-of-president-obama-not-having-any-friends/378761/)” to be capable of exercising the minimal level of self-restraint required to not start a fist fight with a septuagenarian during a few brief meetings. If he deserves a NPP for that, what does Melania deserve? Sainthood? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/84 "2017-08-07T15:24:52Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > If he deserves a NPP for that, what does Melania deserve? Sainthood? No. That’s what the money is for. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/85 "2017-08-07T15:25:31Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > No. That’s what the money is for. I thought you guys were saying Trump didn’t have any money? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/86 "2017-08-07T15:29:18Z")
Because of the rate he spends it on casinos, hookers and blow. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/87 "2017-08-07T15:32:21Z")
On a more serious note, Obama was the best advocate/surrogate the Clinton campaign could have ever hoped for. Unfortunately, HRC has a unique gift for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/88 "2017-08-07T15:35:31Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I thought you guys were saying Trump didn’t have any money? 😕 We’ve been saying he’s not as rich as he claims, not that he has no money. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/89 "2017-08-07T15:43:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > We’ve been saying he’s not as rich as he claims, not that he has no money. Ahhhh, so still rich? OK. Thanks for clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/90 "2017-08-07T15:54:06Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Ahhhh, so still rich? OK. Thanks for clarifying. Yep, he’s still got _that_ going for him. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/91 "2017-08-07T15:55:32Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I always support bombing terrorists, including when Obama did it. I just wouldn’t call it ‘[trying] to live up to’ [the Nobel Peace Prize]. If it is, where the hell is GWB’s Nobel Peace Prize? > > And my question was a serious one that I’d appreciate if you would answer: In what way(s) did he “try to live up to it” in your mind? Let’s see…made a couple of ME tours in which, rather than trying to strongarm Muslim nations into line, he appealed to them in the name of democracy and peace (uh-oh, there’s that word again). He negotiated (along with your hated Hillary) an agreement to limit Iran’s nuclear proliferation. He would’ve captured bin Laden if it was possible, but one way or the other he got him, something Georgie-pie couldn’t accomplish in 7 years. (And I think Bush’s lying or ‘hopeful exaggeration’ to the world community about WMD’s pretty much aced him out of any Peace Prize consideration.) On the other side of the coin, how many _allies_ has Trumpy alienated in six months? Of course, he did fecklessly bomb a Syrian air base and preside over the dropping of the biggest bomb ever. And lost an aircraft carrier. Good for him. If there was a Nobel Piece Prize, he should get it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/92 "2017-08-07T15:56:32Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Technically speaking, Bush targeted a genocidal dictator and a number of terrorists. In both cases, we’re effectively talking policing missions. Yeah, I forgot about Qaddafi until after the fact. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/93 "2017-08-07T16:07:31Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Let’s see…made a couple of ME tours in which, rather than trying to strongarm Muslim nations into line, he appealed to them in the name of democracy and peace (uh-oh, there’s that word again). He negotiated (along with your hated Hillary) an agreement to limit Iran’s nuclear proliferation. He would’ve captured bin Laden if it was possible, but one way or the other he got him, … I’m unequivocally and unapologetically a supporter and admirer of BA. But you have to admit that the NPP he received was in breathlessly rushed aspiration rather than actual accomplishments. I doubt very much he’d be in the running today, given his track record of authorized military actions over the 8 years of his presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/94 "2017-08-07T16:20:58Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Ahhhh, so still rich? OK. Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, it’s sort of hard to squander the amount of money that he inherited. He’s not THAT incompetent. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/95 "2017-08-07T16:32:04Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > … But you have to admit that the NPP he received was in breathlessly rushed aspiration rather than actual accomplishments. I doubt very much he’d be in the running today, given his track record of authorized military actions over the 8 years of his presidency. Thanks, this was the point I was getting at, but you said it more eloquently than I did. @ **Johnny Ace** , Thanks for the answer. I think there’s plenty there that could be disputed, but I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, so I’ll leave it alone. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/96 "2017-08-07T17:10:45Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’m unequivocally and unapologetically a supporter and admirer of BA. But you have to admit that the NPP he received was in breathlessly rushed aspiration rather than actual accomplishments. I did, in the post where I initially brought up the NPP. I wasn’t quite as explicit as that, though. ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/97 "2017-08-07T20:57:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > On the other side of the coin, how many _allies_ has Trumpy alienated in six months? Of course, he did fecklessly bomb a Syrian air base and preside over the dropping of the biggest bomb ever. And lost an aircraft carrier. Good for him. If there was a Nobel Piece Prize, he should get it. Nah, we’ve dropped two other bombs which were each more than a thousand times bigger. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/98 "2017-08-07T22:04:49Z")
I’d genuinely love to know the answer to the OP. I work in a highly pro-trump office, and yet, when I ask this question, all I get is “he’s not Hillary”. Or “he’s better than Obama”. Even his followers are defining trump in comparison to Obama. Has trump no existence outside of comparisons to others? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/99 "2017-08-07T23:27:39Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I’d genuinely love to know the answer to the OP. I work in a highly pro-trump office, and yet, when I ask this question, all I get is “he’s not Hillary”. Or “he’s better than Obama”. Even his followers are defining trump in comparison to Obama. Has trump no existence outside of comparisons to others? Correct. That is the only measure of success for the GOP these days - they are not Democrats. [McConnell says so](http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/345464-mcconnell-after-healthcare-failure-feel-better-hillary-clinton-could-be). Neener-neener. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/100 "2017-08-08T00:53:35Z")
> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#): > > Nah, we’ve dropped two other bombs which were each more than a thousand times bigger. Sorry, conventional bomb. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653.md?page=6)