# Conservative Dopers...Trump's accomplishments so far

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 2, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653 "2017-08-02T21:42:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
**Page:** 7

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/121 "2017-08-09T00:31:15Z")

</div>

> [@QuickSilver](#):
>
> Isn’t it prudent to know the potential impact before wholly endorsing a blanket deregulation to the protected land?

FWIW, I’m not really “wholly endorsing a blanket deregulation to the protected land”. I suspect Bears Ears will be scaled back, not eliminated entirely, and I think that’s wholly appropriate. There are some locations in the area that should be protected, but it’s significantly less than 1.35 million acres.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/122 "2017-08-09T00:52:32Z")

</div>

> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
>
> I can’t imagine you have much knowledge or information to make declarations about my social universe that are any more substantive than (hilariously-wrong) wild-ass guesses or figments of your own fevered imagination.

Really? I’ve known or been acquainted with thousands of liberals across the country, and the overwhelming majority have been well-educated and generally open-minded (a term that I would _never_ apply to you). My experience, which is wide-ranging, suggests to me that you are letting your bias color your perceptions.

Or maybe you just happened to draw all the Bernie Bros. But you’ve clearly displayed your lack of acceptance of anything that doesn’t match your beliefs, so I’m not surprised that you meet educated guesses with derision.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/123 "2017-08-09T01:03:45Z")

</div>

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
>
> > [@HurricaneDitka](#):
> >
> > Look, if you want to credit Obama with getting Osama, even though portions of the work were done under the GWB administation
> 
> Like fuck they were. You know better, or should. Remember GWB saying he didn’t care anymore?

BTW, feel free to review the NYT article I quoted above and add any addendum to this comment that you feel is appropriate.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/124 "2017-08-09T01:20:43Z")

</div>

> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
>
> I’ll leave it as an exercise for the reader to suss out the differences between “GWB had stopped looking for Bin Laden” and “I don’t spend that much time on him” / “I truly am not that concerned about him”. [Here, perhaps maybe this NYT article will help](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/05/02/world/asia/abbottabad-map-of-where-osama-bin-laden-was-killed.html):

If Obama had succeeded with Bin Laden six months into his Presidency I might give GWB some or most of the credit. But almost 3 years in I would assume that the direct contribution of the previous President was negligible.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/125 "2017-08-09T01:32:11Z")

</div>

> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
>
> Really? I’ve known or been acquainted with thousands of liberals across the country, and the overwhelming majority have been well-educated and generally open-minded (a term that I would _never_ apply to you). My experience, which is wide-ranging, suggests to me that you are letting your bias color your perceptions.

I’m going to make a suggestion and I hope you take it. Stop posting with such disdain that you feel the need to take shots at other posters. Nothing productive can be gained this way.

More specifically to the above post, dial it back. Do not personalize your arguments in this fashion. If you feel you must, the BBQ Pit is right around the corner.

[/moderating]

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/126 "2017-08-09T13:36:57Z")

</div>

> [@jayjay](#):
>
> Gorsuch isn’t even really anything Trump did. That’s all McConnell, for managing to stymie any possibility of the proper president at the time naming any one to that seat. If it weren’t for Yertle, Gorsuch would have had to show up and sit on Garland’s lap.

He won the election. The Republicans sold their souls to get a putative Republican in office and they were crossing their fingers that Trump would deliver a conservative Supreme Court nominee. They got what they bargained for.

Lets not forget that the odds were that McConnell’s gambit would fall flat on its face. There was significant doubt that Trump was really as nucking futz as he seemed to be on the campaign trail. I am now convinced that any NYC Republican that enters national politics goes insane.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/127 "2017-08-09T13:41:31Z")

</div>

> [@CairoCarol](#):
>
> I am not a conservative, but I try to think like one from time to time (it’s hard but I think it is good for me). If I were, I’d probably point the following as Trump administration accomplishments:
> 
> [ul]  
> [li]Gorsuch[/li][li]Pulling out of the Paris Agreement[/li][li]Partial success on the “Muslim ban” (he hasn’t got everything he first asked for but he has some of it)[/li][li]Signing lots of legislation to prevent various Obama-era directives from being implemented[/li][li]Foxconn, Carrier, Apple, whatever - job growth[/li][li]Healthy performance by the stock market[/li][/ul]
> 
> Now, I am not saying that I personally believe in all this - as a general matter, either I don’t think it is good for the country, or I don’t think Trump deserves the credit, or I’m not sure it’s real (ex, Apple plants). But I think it is entirely plausible that a Conservative would be happy about the above and would give Trump credit for it.
> 
> .

Add huge reductions in illegal immigration.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/128 "2017-11-08T17:25:05Z")

</div>

I ran across this opinion piece from the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee (Ronna McDaniel) listing Trump’s accomplishments.

> **[Hats off to Donald Trump for giving the American people what they want](https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/359360-hats-off-to-donald-trump-for-giving-the-american-people-what-they-want/)**
>
> One year after his election, the president is working with Republicans and Democrats to get things done.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/129 "2017-11-08T18:31:53Z")

</div>

Got to around paragraph four or five before I realized it wasn’t satire.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/130 "2017-11-08T18:37:37Z")

</div>

Accomplishment: He went to Asia.

Hey, it’s a long ride on that airplane thingy!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/131 "2017-11-08T18:38:32Z")

</div>

Accomplishment: He flipped the Virginia House of Delegates.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/132 "2017-11-08T19:03:27Z")

</div>

These two things seem ok:

[Trump signs $3.9 billion VA funding bill to avert crisis for Choice program](https://www.stripes.com/news/us/trump-signs-3-9-billion-va-funding-bill-to-avert-crisis-for-choice-program-1.482697)

[Trump signed the ‘Forever GI Bill.’ Here are 11 things you should know.](https://www.militarytimes.com/education-transition/education/2017/08/16/trump-signed-the-forever-gi-bill-here-are-11-things-you-should-know/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653/133 "2017-11-08T20:18:37Z")

</div>

About the first thing he signed was the Russia sanctions bill. I wonder if he even knew.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-dopers-trumps-accomplishments-so-far/792653.md?page=6)
