# Conservative media \*is\* obsessed with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 13, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513 "2019-04-13T21:44:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/81 "2019-04-16T16:43:53Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Anyone bringing up the 0-57 vote as a knock on the Green New Deal either hasn’t spent 5 seconds trying to figure out why that result happened or is being deeply dishonest. Here’s a hint: AOC asked senate dems to abstain. Oh, come on. The resolution, while well-intentioned, is meaningless and hardly anyone understands it. And when I say hardly anyone, [I mean hardly anyone.](https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/430757-durbin-after-reading-green-new-deal-what-in-the-heck-is-this) Even the sponsor of the legislation in the Senate couldn’t bring himself to vote for what he wrote? That’s embarassing. McConnell outmaneuvered AOC like Steph Curry playing one-on-one against me. I can’t explain away being embarrassed like that by saying that my mom called and I had to go home early. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/82 "2019-04-16T19:06:14Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Yes, this is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about. This was such a blatantly political move to try to stifle any actual progress on the GND that I’m literally amazed that anyone with a functioning brain could be fooled by it, or think that it would fool anyone else with a brain. > > … Yeah, you’d think… > [@Shodan](#): > > But make no mistake - that kind of narrow 0-57 vote is exactly the kind of thing that has the right wing trembling in their Oxford loafers! > > Regards, > Shodan Kinda speaks for itself, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/83 "2019-04-16T19:14:17Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > You should ask Trump, your party’s leader. What do you think he’d say if you did? If I had an opportunity to ask President Trump a question, I sure as well wouldn’t waste it on a stupid one like this. AFAIK, Trump has never called AOC an “immigrant”. For that matter, I don’t know of any prominent Republicans that have suggested it. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a common sentiment among the Republicans I interact with. ISTM that it’s an idea that exists only in the fevered imaginations of WC and Chronos and a few others. She was born in the Bronx for fuck’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/84 "2019-04-16T19:34:06Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > If I had an opportunity to ask President Trump a question, I sure as well wouldn’t waste it on a stupid one like this. AFAIK, Trump has never called AOC an “immigrant”. For that matter, I don’t know of any prominent Republicans that have suggested it. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a common sentiment among the Republicans I interact with. ISTM that it’s an idea that exists only in the fevered imaginations of WC and Chronos and a few others. She was born in the Bronx for fuck’s sake. And Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, but that didn’t stop Orange Julius Caesar back in the day, now did it? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/85 "2019-04-16T19:44:56Z")
The “Trump didn’t call AOC an immigrant, he called _Obama_ an immigrant!” is an interesting defense, is it not? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/86 "2019-04-16T19:46:13Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > And Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, but that didn’t stop Orange Julius Caesar back in the day, now did it? :rolleyes: This should be simple for you. If you believe there’s some merit to these assertions: > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > … shes an immigrant … > [@Chronos](#): > > In the eyes of Republicans, she’s an immigrant. … provide whatever evidence you have. So far, your side has none. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/87 "2019-04-16T20:04:34Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > A study found that the New York City Democrat was mentioned 3,181 times on Fox News Channel and its sister Fox Business Network during the six-week period of Feb. 25 to April 7, or just under 76 times a day. Not a day went by when she wasn’t spoken about on Fox. Impressive! With any luck, they’ll match the frequency Trump is mentioned here a day! Showing results 1 to 94 of 94 (Since Yesterday) Search took 5.12 seconds. But nobody’s obsessed with Trump. Nah… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/88 "2019-04-16T20:11:05Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Impressive! With any luck, they’ll match the frequency Trump is mentioned here a day! > > Showing results 1 to 94 of 94 (Since Yesterday) > Search took 5.12 seconds. > > But nobody’s obsessed with Trump. Nah… Malicious fuck-up of a President vs. a newbie congresscritter with no real power, and you want to compare the two? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/89 "2019-04-16T20:15:43Z")
I think that the fact Trump is mentioned frequently on this board certainly proves that right wing media is not obsessed with AOC. ??? ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/90 "2019-04-16T20:42:23Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Malicious fuck-up of a President vs. a newbie congresscritter with no real power, and you want to compare the two? :rolleyes: You’re right, I shouldn’t compare the two. One is coming from a pissant message board and the other is from the most-watched network on cable television. Still, 94 post a day on Trump. Most impressive indeed. Oh, 101 now. Oops. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/91 "2019-04-16T20:42:36Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Impressive! With any luck, they’ll match the frequency Trump is mentioned here a day! > > Showing results 1 to 94 of 94 (Since Yesterday) > Search took 5.12 seconds. > > But nobody’s obsessed with Trump. Nah… Y’know, I wanted to step into this thread to head off a different version of this argument, i.e. Someone is going to come in here and point out that Trump gets mentioned nearly constantly on MSNBC, therefore this is hardly out of the ordinary. That’s a bad argument, because Trump is the president and constantly doing things that are absolutely newsworthy, in the same way “man accidentally blows nose on Mona Lisa” would be newsworthy, whereas AOC is a junior representative with nowhere near the power nor the number of newsworthy events. It’s a silly comparison, and anyone making it should feel pretty silly. …But I didn’t, because I worried I’d be fighting a straw man, that people wouldn’t make an argument that bad. This is a considerably _worse_ argument. How? Why? > [@Ashtura](#): > > You’re right, I shouldn’t compare the two. One is coming from a pissant message board and the other is from the most-watched network on cable television. Still, 94 post a day on Trump. Most impressive indeed. Oh, 101 now. Oops. If that’s your opinion on this message board, [may I make a recommendation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/login.php?do=logout)? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/92 "2019-04-16T20:44:51Z")
There’s a time, BPC, when you’re comparing apples to oranges and you realize… hey, they’re both fruits! So you throw out the apple, buy a diamond ring, and then compare the two. Because that, apparently, made more sense to Ashtura than comparing AOC mentions to Trump mentions on the same medium(s). ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/93 "2019-04-16T21:15:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Malicious fuck-up of a President vs. a newbie congresscritter with no real power, and you want to compare the two? :rolleyes: “no real power”? She told Senate Dems to abstain from voting for her legislation and most of them complied. She’s bossing around senators. That’s “real power”. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/94 "2019-04-16T22:36:57Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > “no real power”? She told Senate Dems to abstain from voting for her legislation and most of them complied. She’s bossing around senators. That’s “real power”. Y’think it may have something to do with it being her legislation, and most of them agreeing with her reasoning, rather than any actual leverage or power she exerted over them? ---
**Author:** ![PoppaSan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poppasan/32/189_2.png) [@PoppaSan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoppaSan)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/95 "2019-04-17T00:54:52Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Some of the videos [Tim Pool](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Draft:Tim_Pool) has made since 1/16/19: > \ Tim Pool claims to be a moderate democrat. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/96 "2019-04-17T01:03:44Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Y’think it may have something to do with it being her legislation, and most of them agreeing with her reasoning, rather than any actual leverage or power she exerted over them? ISTM that this is more likely: 1. AOC said “A”. 2. Someone with real power also said “A”. 3. Therefore, they did “A”. 4. AOC got all the attention because Fauxscist News needs to replace BHO and HRC with fresh Evil Democrats™. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/97 "2019-04-17T01:11:08Z")
> [@PoppaSan](#): > > Tim Pool claims to be a moderate democrat. Sounds convincing. Do you know if he publishes a newsletter? I’m not a twitterer. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/98 "2019-04-17T02:56:24Z")
> [@PoppaSan](#): > > Tim Pool claims to be a moderate democrat. I think both sides, at least those that are aware of him, do not much like Tim Pool. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/99 "2019-04-17T03:04:38Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > But also her parents are puerto rican, so shes an immigrant as well as a minority. Psst, Puerto Rico is US territory. Even if she hadn’t been born in NYC, she wouldn’t be an immigrant. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513/100 "2019-04-17T03:15:39Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > Ask your party’s leader whether Puerto Rico is America. > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > AFAIK, “my party’s leader” isn’t the one that said AOC is an “immigrant”. Wesley Clark did, so I prefer to direct my question to him. Trump is the one who claimed that the “president of Puerto Rico” was corrupt. Q.E.D. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-media-is-obsessed-with-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/832513.md?page=6)