# Conservative radio hosts gets waterboarded

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 22, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343 "2009-05-22T22:19:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/21 "2009-05-22T23:26:50Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> [I waterboard! - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=448717)

\*Curse you!  
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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/22 "2009-05-22T23:27:20Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Would determining who can stand waterboarding longer, Limbaugh, Cheney, Steele, or Newt be a good way of picking the future leader of the GOP?

Something tells me Cheney could actually take it. But at the same time he’s rational enough to know that they wouldn’t do it if it wasn’t unpleasant.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/23 "2009-05-22T23:28:57Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Something tells me Cheney could actually take it. But at the same time he’s rational enough to know that they wouldn’t do it if it wasn’t unpleasant.

I dunno, waterboarding activates a deep-seated drowning panic in the reptilian brain. Cheney is almost completely reptile… who knows what would happen.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/24 "2009-05-22T23:30:02Z")

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Cheney couldn’t last 1 second with that ticker of his.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/25 "2009-05-22T23:30:11Z")

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Man this is making me want to try it because I want to see if I can last longer than the 15 seconds other people last. 😉

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/26 "2009-05-22T23:32:09Z")

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Limbaugh, Cheney, & Newt will accusing of Communism, or worse–Liberalism!

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/27 "2009-05-22T23:33:01Z")

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> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#):
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> My first thought was that I would love to see Cheney getting waterboard on youtube. In fact, I might even be willing to pay money to experience that in IMAX.

Nah. I’ll pass. It’d be an instant death sentence for him. His heart would probably give out after two seconds and then we’d have to deal with cries of murder from Republicans and, unfortunately, they’d be right.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/28 "2009-05-22T23:38:01Z")

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I have to give Mancow his props… He actually went through with it, and spoke the truth about it afterwards. That has to count for something.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/29 "2009-05-22T23:38:45Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> I’m glad the radio host did this and was honest enough to tell the truth about it, but if he truly believed beforehand that it wasn’t going to be excruciating, he’s cataclysmically dumb and I hope he thoroughly shitted his pants.

The thing is, it doesn’t look that bad even watching it. I’m sure it’s awful because everyone who experiences says it is, but it just doesn’t look or sound that bad. I can understand why someone would be doubtful.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/30 "2009-05-22T23:40:45Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> Cheney couldn’t last 1 second with that ticker of his.

I’d like to see Cheney waterboarded until he threw in the towel, so to speak, and then for an additional fifteen seconds. Three times running.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/31 "2009-05-22T23:42:00Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I say good for him, because only the stupidest, most willfully ignorant shitcans still question if waterboarding is torture or not. If one of them can actually learn, awesome. There may be some hope.

Yeah. But the only way the terms of the debate will change is if every conservative talk show host in the country gets waterboarded, and-

Hmm.

We’re gonna need a bigger waterboard.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/32 "2009-05-22T23:47:39Z")

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This is a serious topic.  
This has been an amusing thread.  
This thread has no debate of which I am aware.

Off to IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/33 "2009-05-22T23:49:27Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The thing is, it doesn’t look that bad even watching it. I’m sure it’s awful because everyone who experiences says it is, but it just doesn’t look or sound that bad. I can understand why someone would be doubtful.

I saw footage somewhere online recently (or maybe it was on Olbermann’s show) of someone being waterboarded and it actually looked terrible. I think it was done on a military “volunteer”. If I recall correctly, his head was being held down and water was practically being forced into him. The waterboarding Mancow went endured, though I’m sure horrible, was not the same treatment as in the clip I saw previously.

I’m sure someone here knows the clip I’m talking about and can Google it up for us. I’m not finding it.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/34 "2009-05-22T23:50:04Z")

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That didn’t look that bad. I mean - I’m not saying waterboarding isn’t torture, it is … but when Scylla described the saran wrap method it sounded way worse. It seems like Mancow could’ve simply held his breath and closed his throat and endured it until he he had to breathe… the saran wrap method seems so much worse because you gradually become overcome and it just completely seals you off.

I was also under the impression that the victim was supposed to have their head tilted downwards so that the water couldn’t be sucked up into the lungs. They elevated his legs… but what good would that do? Watching it a second time it does look like he was on a slight incline… I’d always pictured it as steeper.

Edit: rewatching the video, the torturer says “we’re going to do it in 5… 5…4…” and then he does it. I guess that’s precisely to prevent people from closing their throats.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/35 "2009-05-23T00:13:29Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Edit: rewatching the video, the torturer says “we’re going to do it in 5… 5…4…” and then he does it. I guess that’s precisely to prevent people from closing their throats.

I believe Christopher Hitchens mentioned in his article that the people conducting his waterboarding would press on his solar plexus to prevent him from timing his breaths to the water.

To say nothing of the fact that Hitchens and Muller underwent the procedure in safe conditions, knowing they could stop it at any time.

Despite that, Muller seemed pretty rattled. His face is white as a sheet afterward.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/36 "2009-05-23T00:49:55Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I have to give Mancow his props… He actually went through with it, and spoke the truth about it afterwards. That has to count for something.

The amount of ammo this is going to give KO to attack Hannity should make for a couple interesting new Countdowns.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/37 "2009-05-23T00:50:02Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> Cheney couldn’t last 1 second with that ticker of his.

That ticking is merely an illusion. Cheney is actually Undead and he can breathe water like that little rat in The Abyss. So, clearly waterboarding him would merely be entertainment for the masses who will pay money to imagine what it would be like to torture the bastard.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/38 "2009-05-23T00:52:39Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Nah. I’ll pass. It’d be an instant death sentence for him. His heart would probably give out after two seconds and then we’d have to deal with cries of murder from Republicans and, unfortunately, they’d be right.

Fine, then. Just have Cheney’s friend waterboard him. You know, the guy Dick shot in the face? Fair’s fair after all.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/39 "2009-05-23T01:12:08Z")

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Can I ask a question?

It’s been a long time since I listened to Mancow, but since when is he a conservative? I’ve always thought he was just an absolute shock jock. Say anything and everything to get a reaction. More like Howard Stern than Rush Limbaugh. Did I miss something?

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservative-radio-hosts-gets-waterboarded/497343/40 "2009-05-23T01:43:08Z")

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> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#):
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> My first thought was that I would love to see Cheney getting waterboard on youtube. In fact, I might even be willing to pay money to experience that in IMAX.

Hell, I’d pay money for a darroguette of Cheney being waterboarded.

Christ, we are on a Secret Service list for sure…

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