# Conservatives hate American Girls **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 15, 2005, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342 "2005-10-15T08:52:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/41 "2005-10-16T18:54:14Z")
What I want to know is, why isn’t there a second set of dolls for boys? I mean, I understand the positive messages that the girls’ dolls give, but why can’t boys learn positive messages (and get interested in American history) too? Robin ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/42 "2005-10-16T19:07:28Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > What I want to know is, why isn’t there a second set of dolls for boys? I mean, I understand the positive messages that the girls’ dolls give, but why can’t boys learn positive messages (and get interested in American history) too? > > Robin Because we don’t want them to be sissies. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/43 "2005-10-16T19:20:53Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > What I want to know is, why isn’t there a second set of dolls for boys? I mean, I understand the positive messages that the girls’ dolls give, but why can’t boys learn positive messages (and get interested in American history) too? > > Robin If they did, my son would have one. I don’t know how much he’d actually play with the doll itself (probably not at all), but all the stuff that came with it would be great. Just think of the merchadising…Davey Crocket style coon-skin caps, pop-guns, bow and arrows, wholesome books about young boys who become young men. Sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/44 "2005-10-16T19:39:50Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > What I want to know is, why isn’t there a second set of dolls for boys? I mean, I understand the positive messages that the girls’ dolls give, but why can’t boys learn positive messages (and get interested in American history) too? Boys don’t want dolls. ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Loblaw_1)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/45 "2005-10-16T20:25:12Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > **Bob Loblaw** , welcome. I see that you are a Guest, but I hope that you decide to become a Member. Thank you. I’m thinking about it, but I lost my email account password. I’ve gotta remember that first. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/46 "2005-10-16T20:41:08Z")
> [@Neurotik](#): > > Boys don’t want dolls. We want ACTION FIGURES!!! John Rambo: American Boy. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/47 "2005-10-16T20:57:05Z")
You know what? I have absolutely no use for dolls at all. I am a heterosexual adult male. But I think I’ll buy a doll just to help support this company and to counteract the effects of a conservative boycott. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/48 "2005-10-16T21:01:10Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > We want ACTION FIGURES!!! John Rambo: American Boy. Fine, so they can make a line of action-figure type dolls for boys. Spin off a line of books about boys from different periods, and maybe market related toys. It’s a license to print money! Robin ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/49 "2005-10-16T21:10:54Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > You know what? I have absolutely no use for dolls at all. I am a heterosexual adult male. But I think I’ll buy a doll just to help support this company and to counteract the effects of a conservative boycott. Good man. There will be a plethora of Xmas Toys for Tots groups ready to relieve you of your dolly burden very soon. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/50 "2005-10-16T21:13:08Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > We want ACTION FIGURES!!! John Rambo: American Boy. True, but my parents wouldn’t buy me an $80 action figure just so I could blow his head off with a firecracker two weeks later. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/51 "2005-10-16T21:57:07Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Sounds kind of like a line of plush toys, doesn’t it? Totally. With a Saturday cartoon tie-in. “Don’t touch that dial, kids! Watch ‘Womb Babies’ in their fight against the Evil Dr. Aborto and his American Girl Asstants, Mollie & Kit!” ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/52 "2005-10-16T22:16:23Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > We want ACTION FIGURES!!! John Rambo: American Boy. We certainly do. [Meet Evil Captor’s official Keyboard Cheerleading Squad!](http://www.bondagerotica.com/extras/cheerleadersforweb.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/53 "2005-10-16T22:18:50Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > Fine, so they can make a line of action-figure type dolls for boys. Spin off a line of books about boys from different periods, and maybe market related toys. They’d have to be boys from different periods who brutally and efficiently obliterate scores of bad guys, while tossing off a witty quip or two. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/54 "2005-10-16T23:08:01Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > You know what? I have absolutely no use for dolls at all. I am a heterosexual adult male. But I think I’ll buy a doll just to help support this company and to counteract the effects of a conservative boycott. Donate the doll to Toys for Tots. So you’ll be pissing off the Wildmon types AND making a little girl smile on Christmas morning! You’re two for two. “Womb-babies.” Technically, isn’t every baby a “womb baby?” [Here’s the AG website.](http://www.americangirl.com/) Like I said-doll collector porn. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/55 "2005-10-17T01:00:07Z")
> [@FisherQueen](#): > > My family had a subscription to Wildmon’s newsletter when I was growing up. > > Even when I was an eight-year-old, highly impressionable, pro-life, anti-homosexual, Bible-believing fundamentalist little girl… > > I could still tell that he was a wingnut. I used to grab the newsletter out of the mail and scamper off to my room every month, because it was the craziest thing I’d ever seen. There was a whole section of television reviews which include statistics- number of naughty words, sex scenes, scenes of violence, disobedience to parents or authority… Years ago, Wildmon had a column in the now-defunct publication, _Conservative Digest_. I used to read every issue of the magazine just for Wildmon’s article because it almost always featured that ignorant sanctimonious nimrod going off his nut about some TV show he found “morally objectionable” and then adding the show’s sponsors to his ever-growing boycott list. I remember a review of “Cheers” in which he cited the show for using the term “hallelujah” in a less-then-reverent matter (I think it was Norm’s response to getting a beer) and then declared that since the program’s sponsors obviously didn’t want the business of “good Christians,” they must not buy anything from them. High comedy. > [@mswas](#): > > I don’t support American girls dolls because they promote a waspy aesthetic that I find repulsive. All those fucking muted cornflower blues and pinks! Fuck them and their waspocracy! If you’re serious, am I correct in assuming you’re also not sympathetic to Rev. Wildmon’s religious and political views? If so, that must put you on the horns of a dilemma. On one hand, you are boycotting the AG dolls for their alleged “waspy aesthetic” but, on the other hand, so is Rev. Wildmon for reasons you likely find repugnant. You hate the dolls but, by refusing to buy them, you are inadvertently aiding Wildmon’s right-wing wack job cause. Yet, if you buy the dolls to piss off Wildmon and his followers, you are aiding the “waspy aesthetic” you despise. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/56 "2005-10-17T01:15:08Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > They’d have to be boys from different periods who brutally and efficiently obliterate scores of bad guys, while tossing off a witty quip or two. [Billy Dare meets Wildman: The Ultimate Team](http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2004/04/29/boll/story.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/57 "2005-10-17T01:40:05Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Donate the doll to Toys for Tots. So you’ll be pissing off the Wildmon types AND making a little girl smile on Christmas morning! You’re two for two. Good plan. ---
**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/58 "2005-10-17T02:43:05Z")
You can also go to Bath and Body Works and buy the bracelet if you don’t want to buy the doll. They cost a dollar and 70 cents of that goes to Girls inc. You could get 80 of them and really piss off Wildmon. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/59 "2005-10-17T05:09:59Z")
Donald Wildmon, which one is he? These guys tend to run together in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342/60 "2005-10-17T05:23:17Z")
> [@adhemar](#): > > You can also go to Bath and Body Works and buy the bracelet if you don’t want to buy the doll. They cost a dollar and 70 cents of that goes to Girls inc. You could get 80 of them and really piss off Wildmon. You could get 80 of them and mail them to him! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-american-girls/326342.md?page=4)