# Conservatives hate Spock **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 7, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445 "2015-03-07T15:54:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/1 "2015-03-07T15:54:39Z")
[Can’t Make This Up: Conservatives Now Say They Hate Spock After Obama Praises Character](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/03/06/cant-make-this-up-conservatives-now-say-they-hate-spock-after-obama-praises-character/) > [@](#): > > There is a popular belief among liberals that conservatives would stop breathing if President Obama came out in favor of air, and that may not be too far off. > > After the tragic passing of Leonard Nimoy, the actor who had defined the role of one of pop culture’s most iconic science fiction characters, Star Trek’s Mr. Spock, there was universal praise of both actor and character from across the world. The remembrance was largely apolitical, with people on every part of the political spectrum paying respect. Some Republicans (erroneously) even tried to claim Spock and Nimoy as a conservative. > > Then suddenly, everything shifted. Today, the group is disavowing Spock and arguing instead that he was an “appeasing arrogant jerk.” What happened? You can probably guess. > > President Obama had marked the passing of Leonard Nimoy with a moving statement released by the White House: > “Long before being nerdy was cool, there was Leonard Nimoy. Leonard was a lifelong lover of the arts and humanities, a supporter of the sciences, generous with his talent and his time. And of course, Leonard was Spock. Cool, logical, big-eared and level-headed, the center of Star Trek’s optimistic, inclusive vision of humanity’s future. > > I loved Spock.” > _Loved?!_ As if on cue, conservatives have lined up to re-remember Spock as basically a pointy-eared version of what they believe Obama to be. OK. _One_ Conservative wrote an [opinion piece](http://freebeacon.com/columns/i-dont-love-spock/). And it’s in _Washington Free Bacon_, which Wikipedia says ‘is noted for its aggressive, ideologically driven reporting, modeled after liberal counterparts in the media such as Think Progress and Talking Points Memo’. So the referenced column is _meant_ to be over-the-top. In other words, a Conservative writer trolled and a Liberal writer took the bait. (Hey, maybe they’re socks of each other! 😛 ) Still funny, though. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/2 "2015-03-07T18:03:16Z")
I would’ve assumed conservatives hated Spock because his worldview is based on _logic_, which is, of course, anathema to everything the conservative movement stands for. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/3 "2015-03-07T18:06:23Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I would’ve assumed conservatives hated Spock because his worldview is based on _logic_, which is, of course, anathema to everything the conservative movement stands for. Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/4 "2015-03-07T19:31:05Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I would’ve assumed conservatives hated Spock because his worldview is based on _logic_, which is, of course, anathema to everything the conservative movement stands for. Everyone thinks their own opinions are based on logic, and their ideological opponents are being illogical. No one side has any claim to owning logic. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/5 "2015-03-07T20:07:22Z")
“The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the 1%-ers” Yeah, I can see why they hate Spock. ---
**Author:** ![dataguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eada6e/32.png) [@dataguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dataguy)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/6 "2015-03-07T20:07:28Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Everyone thinks their own opinions are based on logic, and their ideological opponents are being illogical. No one side has any claim to owning logic. …in your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/7 "2015-03-07T20:44:11Z")
The OP makes sense to me. Still remember insane dentist Orly Taitz, who begat the largest part of the birther movement. “There is no evidence that will convince me that Obama was born in the US.” In short, no proof is good enough. No proof WILL be good enough. My belief is based on FAITH, not facts. I have seen some serious presidential hate before. I lived through the Nixon adminstration, after all. But I have never seen such psychotic, logic-defying hate for a president as I have seen for Obama. What I think about the man doesn’t matter, any more than the FACTS matter. Truly, if the man spoke out in support of oxygen, there are those who would hold their breaths until they passed out. Why, then, should they not hate a TV and movie actor that Obama paused to say something nice about? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/8 "2015-03-07T21:10:25Z")
> [@dataguy](#): > > …in your opinion. Good, I’m not going too fast for you. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/9 "2015-03-07T21:29:10Z")
Another thing Obama screwed up! ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/10 "2015-03-07T21:38:29Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > OK. _One_ Conservative wrote an [opinion piece](http://freebeacon.com/columns/i-dont-love-spock/). And it’s in _Washington Free Bacon_ I have a FB friend that’s very conservative and always quoting Washington Free Beacon. Everytime I see it I think 'did that say Bacon, Washington Free Bacon?, no, it was just Jim posting another article". I had to read what you typed like three times. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/11 "2015-03-08T01:06:01Z")
Obama’s getting off easy. By next week people will be asking if Hillary Clinton had an alibi for when Leonard Nimoy died. Not saying she killed him mind you. Just asking questions. ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/12 "2015-03-08T03:05:50Z")
“There is a popular belief among liberals that conservatives would stop breathing if President Obama came out in favor of air, and that may not be too far off.” There’s a great Key & Peele skit on exactly that, and I cannot find it on Youtube :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/13 "2015-03-08T04:13:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad. Your ears are green. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/14 "2015-03-08T04:16:54Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Your ears are green. Well, I’m not entirely sure my circuits are registering correctly. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/15 "2015-03-08T04:36:59Z")
Obama had to say something nice about Spock. those aliens have to stick together. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/16 "2015-03-08T05:28:38Z")
Hey, I’m too busy Spocking my fivers to worry about how people reacted to something the Prez said. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/17 "2015-03-08T06:50:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > In other words, a Conservative writer trolled and a Liberal writer took the bait. (Hey, maybe they’re socks of each other! 😛 ) Still funny, though. 😃 The last line of the Free Beacon article: “It will take America some time to recover from the legacy of our Spock-loving president—though probably not as long as it will take my friends to stop laughing at me for writing this column.” > [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > I have seen some serious presidential hate before. I lived through the Nixon adminstration, after all. But I have never seen such psychotic, logic-defying hate for a president as I have seen for Obama. What I think about the man doesn’t matter, any more than the FACTS matter. Were you in a coma for GWB? Or did you miss Air America’s daily calls for his assassination and a novel about assassinating him and a movie that depicted his (and Tony Blair’s) assassination? And you didn’t read the last line of the Free Beacon article. Tsk, tsk. > [@](#): > > Truly, if the man spoke out in support of oxygen, there are those who would hold their breaths until they passed out. Funny, that’s pretty much how I remember leftists’ reactions to GWB, e.g., his prescription drug plan. Of course, there are several examples of Senator Obama and Democrats saying something GWB did was horribly wrong, but President Obama and Democrats thought the very same thing was okay when they did it. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/18 "2015-03-08T07:41:36Z")
> [@rowrrbazzle](#): > > …Of course, there are several examples of Senator Obama and Democrats saying something GWB did was horribly wrong, but President Obama and Democrats thought the very same thing was okay when they did it. Prime example: raising the debt ceiling. When GWB (wrongly) wanted to do it, Senator Obama (rightly) decried it as a “lack of leadership.” But when President Obama wanted to do it, well, that was totally a different thing all together. Naturally. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/19 "2015-03-08T07:42:57Z")
double post. stupid message board. But since I can’t delete it, I’ll just add that I am probably more conservative than anyone on this board, and I’ve loved Mr. Spock since Star Trek TOS was in its first run. So yeah, I reject the premise of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2015, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445/20 "2015-03-08T08:07:31Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > …But when President Obama wanted to do it, well, that was totally a different thing all together. … “That was a totally different thing.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-hate-spock/714445.md?page=2)