# Conservatives in Congress moving to impeach Rod Rosenstein (article) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 14, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890 "2018-07-14T11:36:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/21 "2018-07-16T00:27:40Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Note that beyond the “protect Trump” purpose, there’s also a “protect Jim Jordan” goal in this talk of impeachment. From Jordan’s point of view, the bigger the uproar over Rosenstein, the less room or time there is to mention Jordan’s vulnerabilities in the ‘ignored abuse’ scandal. First thing that jumped out at me when I saw his name. JJ knows this’ll go nowhere, but his scandal won’t. Green onion on. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/22 "2018-07-16T03:11:08Z")
[Trey Gowdy rules out Rosenberg impeachment](http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/397127-gowdy-rules-out-rosenstein-impeachment). There isn’t enough support for it, he says. C’mon, right-wingers. When Trey Gowdy thinks you’re being more insane than usual, time to look into a mirror and start slapping the face you see there. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/23 "2018-07-16T03:41:01Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > [Trey Gowdy rules out Rosenberg impeachment](http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/397127-gowdy-rules-out-rosenstein-impeachment). > > There isn’t enough support for it, he says. > > C’mon, right-wingers. When Trey Gowdy thinks you’re being more insane than usual, time to look into a mirror and start slapping the face you see there. I can see Gowdy doing this only to save face for the nincompoop he made of himself going after FBI Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/24 "2018-07-16T04:47:23Z")
His base just saw the outtakes, the scenes where he is sternly questioning, pinning him with his steely gaze. They didn’t see, and likely wouldn’t understand, how Strzok’s reply twisted him into a pretzel and sprinkled him with lavender water. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/25 "2018-07-16T05:30:41Z")
Strzok. Is that Vulcan? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/26 "2018-07-16T12:57:07Z")
Rosenberg? Is that just a typo or am I missing an insider reference? Are they going for the death penalty? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/27 "2018-07-16T13:21:08Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Rosenberg? Is that just a typo or am I missing an insider reference? Are they going for the death penalty? It’s a typo - they meant [del]Rosenpenis[/del] [del]Rosenrosen[/del] [del]Rosen[/del] Rosenstein. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/28 "2018-07-16T16:13:40Z")
Rosen_steen_! ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/29 "2018-07-16T16:33:39Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Rosenberg? Is that just a typo or am I missing an insider reference? Are they going for the death penalty? You caught me. Bran farts R us. ETA: I meant Brain farts R us. The bran ones are totally different in sound. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/30 "2018-07-25T23:30:56Z")
[Here we go](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/398902-gop-lawmakers-introduce-impeachment-resolution-against-rosenstein): > [@](#): > > A group of conservative House lawmakers on Wednesday introduced articles of impeachment against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the top Department of Justice (DOJ) official overseeing special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. > > The impeachment document makes a series of charges against Rosenstein, the latest sign of escalating efforts among conservatives to oust the DOJ’s No. 2 official. > > Conservative members led by Reps. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), along with nine co-sponsors, introduced the articles shortly after a meeting with DOJ officials concerning document production. > [@](#): > > "For 9 months we’ve warned them consequences were coming, and for 9 months we’ve heard the same excuses backed up by the same unacceptable conduct. Time is up and the consequences are here. It’s time to find a new Deputy Attorney General who is serious about accountability and transparency,” Meadows said in a statement. > > “Multiple times we’ve caught DOJ officials hiding information from Congress, withholding relevant documents, or even outright ignoring Congressional subpoenas— **and now we have evidence that Mr. Rosenstein signed off on a document using unverified political opposition research as a cornerstone of a FISA application to spy on an American citizen working for the Trump campaign** ," Meadows continued. No, we don’t. I’m aghast at the number of people who seem to be wiling to let others tell them things that aren’t true, and the number of people who believe that as long as you say something, it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/31 "2018-07-25T23:32:18Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Rosen_steen_! Why am I hearing this in Hanover Fist’s voice? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/32 "2018-07-25T23:39:38Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why am I hearing this in Hanover Fist’s voice? 😃 **Trump:** Don’t worry, Giuliani… I’ve got an _angle._😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/33 "2018-07-26T02:10:20Z")
man I love this place ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/34 "2018-07-26T14:05:59Z")
I don’t know, **Bo** , I’m hearing it in Gene Wilder’s. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/35 "2018-07-26T14:27:21Z")
Um… just Gene Wilder or Gene-Wilder-as- ? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/36 "2018-07-26T17:12:52Z")
And so it seems, not surprisingly, that the conservative House members pushing for Rosenstein’s impeachment will not attempt to force a floor vote before leaving on a month-long recess: > **[Conservatives back down from effort to force a vote on impeaching Rod Rosenstein](https://www.vox.com/2018/7/26/17616888/rod-rosenstein-impeachment-vote-trump-mueller)** > > Trump allies in the House decided not to force a vote on impeaching Robert Mueller’s boss. So, pure political posturing for now people. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/37 "2018-07-26T18:01:12Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Um… just Gene Wilder or Gene-Wilder-as- ? 😕 “Frahnken-_steen_!” ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/38 "2018-07-26T18:16:06Z")
All this fuss? Why Mark Meadows just said he’s tabling these efforts. > **[Meadows backs off impeaching Rosenstein after leadership talks](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/399010-meadows-swaps-rosenstein-impeachment-efforts-for-contempt-after/)** > > Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) says he is tabling his efforts to impeach Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein after having several meetings with Republican leadership, stating that he would inst… Look, it’s now just a contempt process. Nothing to worry about now… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/39 "2018-07-26T19:49:41Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > …is there even such a thing as “obstruction of justice” anymore, or did we just all agree that that is not thing anymore? It’s not a thing when applied to the House; Constitutionally speaking, no Congressman may be charged criminally for commencing an impeachment, even if his motives were to disrupt the investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890/40 "2018-07-26T19:55:06Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > I can’t remember how this works - is there a “prosecutor” in impeachment proceedings, or is it more like committee hearings where each Senator is both advocate and judge? Either way, I do not see it ending well for the Republicans. The House of Representatives provides “case managers,” typically the members who were leading the impeachment bills in the House. They act as prosecutors; the Senate is the jury, and the Chief Justice the judge . . . with the twist that the jury can set the rules for the trial. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-in-congress-moving-to-impeach-rod-rosenstein-article/817890.md?page=3)