# Conservatives on immigration are the most vicious people on earth **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828 "2017-04-20T08:38:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/1 "2017-04-20T08:38:26Z")
I was watching an anti illegal video from a conservative youtuber [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Z6aUKarnouQ/maxresdefault.jpg "CNN Rebuttal: Yes, Deport Illegal Immigrants/Criminals | Louder With Crowder") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6aUKarnouQ) It was standard in it’s contempt and hatred of illegals, and glee over seeing them get deported and uprooted. Then I went and read the comments. Oceans of agreement and worse when it comes to their attitudes towards illegals. I understand the need to deport people, but the glee and self righteousness, and open contempt for people being uprooted as if they deserve every rotten consequence because of their status physically repulses me. I see these as incredibly vile people, and I wish ill upon them. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/2 "2017-04-20T10:42:42Z")
So well put – thank you. It astounds me how some people can toss their humanity and compassion out the window. I don’t know if it makes it better or worse to realize that many of them (not all, sadly), upon getting to know a recent immigrant personally (a new neighbor, say), would then say, “well, I didn’t mean _him/her_.” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/3 "2017-04-20T11:44:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Conservatives on immigration are the most vicious people on earth Yes, ISIS members are pausing their cutting off the hands of bread theives and the heads of people who can’t correctly recite quotes from the Koran and saying “Damn, those American conservatives are vicious!” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/4 "2017-04-20T12:07:32Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Yes, ISIS members are pausing their cutting off the hands of bread theives and the heads of people who can’t correctly recite quotes from the Koran and saying “Damn, those American conservatives are vicious!” We must banish hyperbole from this land! Hyperbole is the scourge of the earth! DEATH TO HYPERBOLE! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/5 "2017-04-20T12:34:54Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Yes, ISIS members are pausing their cutting off the hands of bread theives and the heads of people who can’t correctly recite quotes from the Koran and saying “Damn, those American conservatives are vicious!” I’m not sure that “well, ISIS are worse” is a compelling argument in favor of those people. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/6 "2017-04-20T12:41:51Z")
But it is a rather compelling argument against “making a YouTube video is more vicious than cutting off someone’s head”. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > We must banish hyperbole from this land! Hyperbole is the scourge of the earth! DEATH TO HYPERBOLE! I have told you a hundred million times - don’t exaggerate. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/7 "2017-04-20T13:18:00Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > But it is a rather compelling argument against “making a YouTube video is more vicious than cutting off someone’s head”. Well, that was clearly a serious point that should be debated. Will you be taking the for or against? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/8 "2017-04-20T13:37:20Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > I see these as incredibly vile people, and I wish ill upon them. Pot, meet kettle. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/9 "2017-04-20T14:21:50Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Well, that was clearly a serious point that should be debated. Will you be taking the for or against? Yes, I will. ISIS members should illegally immigrate to the US. Then we cut off their heads, post the video on YouTube, and then deport them. A win-win. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/10 "2017-04-20T14:25:36Z")
That, or YouTube commenters are the most vicious people on earth. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/11 "2017-04-20T14:26:24Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > I understand the need to deport people, but the glee and self righteousness, and open contempt for people being uprooted as if they deserve every rotten consequence because of their status physically repulses me. > > I see these as incredibly vile people, and I wish ill upon them. But I’m sure you don’t wish ill upon them with glee, self-righteousness, and open contempt, right? I am, however, shocked to find out that people can be ass-holes in the comments sections of youtube blurbs on the internet. I"ve never seen that before!! ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/12 "2017-04-20T14:31:16Z")
Better, it’s a win-win\*-win-win\*\* \*: I assume ISIS enjoy having their heads cut off \*\*: I assume American conservatives were tired of coming in second-best to ISIS ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/13 "2017-04-20T15:05:04Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > I understand the need to deport people, but the glee and self righteousness, and open contempt But if you “understand the need to deport people,” only to then argue that the most vicious people on earth are those who are gleeful and self-righteous and contemptuous about it – well, then, aren’t people even worse if they’re gleeful and self-righteous and contemptuous in pursuit of stuff that _shouldn’t_ be done? Like, when you see somebody advocating for a goal that _doesn’t_ prompt you to remark “Hey, I Understand The Need To Do That, But” – what do you say then? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/14 "2017-04-20T15:33:30Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > But if you “understand the need to deport people,” only to then argue that the most vicious people on earth are those who are gleeful and self-righteous and contemptuous about it – well, then, aren’t people even worse if they’re gleeful and self-righteous and contemptuous in pursuit of stuff that _shouldn’t_ be done? > > Like, when you see somebody advocating for a goal that _doesn’t_ prompt you to remark “Hey, I Understand The Need To Do That, But” – what do you say then? Stop being so gleeful and self-righteous, **Mr. Pepper**! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/15 "2017-04-20T15:37:21Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > That, or YouTube commenters are the most vicious people on earth. Nope, just the stupidest. No hyperbole there, just the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/16 "2017-04-20T15:40:32Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > I understand the need to deport people There is no need to do anything of the sort. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/17 "2017-04-20T15:49:36Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > So well put – thank you. It astounds me how some people can toss their humanity and compassion out the window. I don’t know if it makes it better or worse to realize that many of them (not all, sadly), upon getting to know a recent immigrant personally (a new neighbor, say), would then say, “well, I didn’t mean _him/her_.” Or you could be the Trump supporter whose [_husband_](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/) was deported – even though her husband was undocumented, she didn’t think they would deport “good” people. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/18 "2017-04-20T15:51:17Z")
Conservatives in general (at least the traditional ones) encourage immigration and support plans to legalize large numbers of “established” illegal immigrants. Same as traditional liberals. Conservatives anticipate more cheap labor, liberals smell votes. This issue provides one of the few areas of bipartisanship that we have. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/19 "2017-04-20T15:53:21Z")
> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > There is no need to do anything of the sort. & bank robbers who give back the money & fill out a loan app instead shouldn’t go to jail either. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828/20 "2017-04-20T15:55:18Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > & bank robbers who give back the money & fill out a loan app instead shouldn’t go to jail either. They did not rob a bank. That’s a dehumanizing characterization. What they did was make an unauthorized withdrawal. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-on-immigration-are-the-most-vicious-people-on-earth/784828.md?page=2)