Conservatives rally behind Santorum

Yes you did.

And you’re wrong, of course. I’m a conservative atheist.

And the Republican party could not give one single, glistening shit about what you think.

You’re along for the ride, but the top is down and the Jesus-freaks driving and riding shotgun can’t hear you.

I do believe that your subgroup is even smaller than the Log Cabin Republicans, and look how influential they were with the GOP.

Pass the popcorn…

Well, that should tell you just how serious these clowns are about “values.”

I meant politically. Try to keep up.

Do you think their venomous stance on immigration is entirely the result of non-racist attitudes? And you can in fact be a little bit racist.

OK, I see what happened. I meant that all evangelicals are conservatives even if not all conservatives are evangelicals.

Yeah, you’re a pretty slim minority of the conservative movement. The Republican party has never nominated an athiest to national office. I can’t remember when they nominated one to statewide office.

Well, shit, I guess there goes the last chance to derail Romney. I guess Obama’s going to have to fight for his second term.

I don’t think that is quite right, either. Obama got lots of support from black churches in the rural South, and many of them are pretty evangelical.

I don’t think that “their stance” (meaning, in general) is either venomous or necessarily racist. I think their stance would be the same if Mexicans were poor, low skilled, non-English speaking white people.

I can’t see why it would be “venomous” to want to enforce immigration laws.

Jack Chick is from what I’ve seen very apolitical-he thinks people like Falwell and Robertson are in the pocket of the Catholics.

George Will and Krugman?

Heard of a fellow named Robert Ingersoll?

Is that part of the demographic pollsters are referring to when they say evangelicals?

George Will said on The Colbert Report that he was an agnostic, and Krugman considers himself to be a liberal. Try again.

  1. You are going all the way back to the 1800’s, and
  2. He was an agnostic.

Robert Green Ingersoll was indeed an agnostic, not athiest. And he never was nominated for election. He served for a time as Illinois Attorney General, but that was an appointment at the time - not an elective office. He was asked by the Illinois Republicans to run for governor, but with the stipulation that he would conceal his agnosticism during the campaign. Ingersoll declined to run, on the grounds that it was immoral to withold information from the public.
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I haven’t met a person who was intolerant of atheists but not of agnostics. If an agnostic can gain acceptance, an atheist can.

I concur. Since he wasn’t sure if there was a God, I guess he was just fairly athy, rather than the athiest possible.

Wait a minute… Isn’t Gingrich nominally Catholic, too?

From my experience for most people who claim agnosticism, it is a more socially acceptable way to say they are atheists. Every single agnostic person I know of is actually an atheist, but don’t want to piss off their families.

You many not experience that because you probably travel in fundie circles, but that’s been my experience, at least. Never mind that agnostic says nothing about whether you believe in God.

Yup. He converted.

The secret is to get the divorces out of the way first,* then convert*.