# Conservatives: Where's the funny?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 6, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526 "2011-06-06T18:43:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/301 "2011-06-21T20:02:51Z")

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_Millard Fillmore_ says “This” when he means “There” too? :smack:

Who’da thunk it?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/302 "2011-06-21T20:10:14Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> _Millard Fillmore_ says “This” when he means “There” too? :smack:
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> Who’da thunk it?

_sigh_ Dude . . . you can stop digging now.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/303 "2011-06-21T21:45:57Z")

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You know, I kinda thouight, back then, that it might be possible that dropping acid would warp my mind. But I never considered that it might warp somebody _else’s_ mind! Far out!

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/304 "2011-06-21T23:11:40Z")

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South Park is the answer. Very popular, gores liberal (or Dem, at least) oxes all the time, portrays most liberals and their pet causes as either stupid or evil.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/305 "2011-06-21T23:14:53Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> South Park is the answer. Very popular, gores liberal (or Dem, at least) oxes all the time, portrays most liberals and their pet causes as either stupid or evil.

And it’s freakin’ funny.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/306 "2011-06-21T23:26:29Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> South Park is the answer. Very popular, gores liberal (or Dem, at least) oxes all the time, portrays most liberals and their pet causes as either stupid or evil.

As Stone or Parker once put it, “We hate conservatives, but we really, really hate liberals.” They’re libertarians really.

But the one political message South Park conveys consistently is not pro-libertarian or pro- anything else. It is simply that too many Americans place far too much importance on politics, that politics does not really matter enough to justify all the fuss and emotional investment. As with many things in civil discourse, I believe that’s flat wrong – at the moment – but we will always need somebody around to say it.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/307 "2011-06-22T00:13:29Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> As Stone or Parker once put it, “We hate conservatives, but we really, really hate liberals.” They’re libertarians really.

I’m probably just blanking, but I can’t recall when they’ve ever directly gone after a Republican figure or righty cause for an entire episode. I might remember a throwaway line about the Tea Party or Limbaugh, but nothing else really comes to mind. I wouldn’t count making fun of ignorant rednecks.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/308 "2011-06-22T02:51:55Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> I’m probably just blanking, but I can’t recall when they’ve ever directly gone after a Republican figure or righty cause for an entire episode. I might remember a throwaway line about the Tea Party or Limbaugh, but nothing else really comes to mind. I wouldn’t count making fun of ignorant rednecks.

I think this fact indicates that part of the misunderstanding here is the definition of ‘conservative’.

If you accept only some aspects of conservative ideology but reject others (like indulging in outrageous sacrilege ala _South Park_), conservatives will not consider you brethren, even if you express sentiments like that attributed to Stone/Parker in **BrainGlutton** ’s post.

So, yeah, not many comedians meet the standard of conservative, because the majority of people don’t. Although the majority of people meet _some_ standards of conservative.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/309 "2011-06-22T03:03:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. You can define quality any way you wish, since it is your opinion I am seeking.
> 2. Even so, _King Of The Hill_ is a _very_ bad example if you wish to put forth a show that suffered and was driven off the air for being conservative-it ran for 13 years.

You didn’t specify “driven off the air”, you said:

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> Can you perhaps think of a quality show that you think suffered from the non-ability of left-wingers to tolerate right-wing humor?

Did you intend to say “and was driven off the air?” For that matter you also said “that you think…” - well, I think.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/310 "2011-06-22T04:15:35Z")

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Tell you what, you just answer whichever you prefer, and if he gives you any shit about it, we’ll kick his ass!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/311 "2011-06-22T05:06:27Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> I’m probably just blanking, but I can’t recall when they’ve ever directly gone after a Republican figure or righty cause for an entire episode. I might remember a throwaway line about the Tea Party or Limbaugh, but nothing else really comes to mind. I wouldn’t count making fun of ignorant rednecks.

[KEVIN TO SATAN: We’ll do what we always do! We’ll use **Republicans!**](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_Friends_Forever)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/312 "2011-06-22T05:32:15Z")

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Maybe they’re not funny, or maybe Joe Camel nihilism creeps me out. Maybe both.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/313 "2011-06-22T06:05:13Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> So, yeah, not many comedians meet the standard of conservative, because the majority of people don’t. Although the majority of people meet _some_ standards of conservative.

This meaningless equivocation is getting so old. How about, simply for the sake of this argument alone, we call everyone who voted for John McCain in the last presidential election a conservative.

South Park has been offered as an example by a conservative, do others concur?

If not, is there something else?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/314 "2011-06-22T06:11:26Z")

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More Conservative Humor: [Day By Day](http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/politics/nancy_pelosi/) a right-wing cartoon by Chris Muir.

It’s not exactly side-splitting hilarious - more like the right-wing alternative to _Doonesbury_, except a little funnier.

[Scrappleface](http://www.scrappleface.com/) is a conservative satire blog. I don’t read it, but I think it’s fairly popular.

There was also [Happy](http://happyfunpundit.blogspot.com/2002_05_05_archive.html#76305789) [Fun](http://happyfunpundit.blogspot.com/2002_06_23_archive.html)[Pundit](http://happyfunpundit.blogspot.com/2002_03_03_archive.html)

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/315 "2011-06-22T06:32:09Z")

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Thank you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/316 "2011-06-22T07:07:50Z")

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“Democrats have held back funds, negotiated with our enemies in time of war, labeled us as war criminals, declared the US defeated a year ago…” says the typical American soldier in the cartoon, venting their unanimousl rage at the arch fiend Nancy Pelosi.

Droll stuff, **Sam**.

Now, if you tell me three times that you really thought that was funny, I promise I’ll believe you. OK, I mean, I’ll try.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/317 "2011-06-22T07:08:18Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> This meaningless equivocation is getting so old. How about, simply for the sake of this argument alone, we call everyone who voted for John McCain in the last presidential election a conservative.

:dubious: No. Still irrelevant unless their **material** has pro-conservative **content.**

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/318 "2011-06-22T07:22:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> “Democrats have held back funds, negotiated with our enemies in time of war, labeled us as war criminals, declared the US defeated a year ago…” says the typical American soldier in the cartoon, venting their unanimousl rage at the arch fiend Nancy Pelosi.
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> Droll stuff, **Sam**.
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> Now, if you tell me three times that you really thought that was funny, I promise I’ll believe you. OK, I mean, I’ll try.

I just finished saying that i didn’t find the cartoon to be always side-splittingly funny, but rather that it’s more like the right-wing’s _Doonesbury_. Maybe it would help you to know that I think Doonesbury is usually one of the most dreadfully unfunny comics I can think of.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/319 "2011-06-22T09:13:28Z")

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Heck, maybe I would have found it funny if they didn’t have Ann Coulter’s grim visage plastered on the page. Every time I see that face, my nuts try to crawl away and hide.

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/320 "2011-06-24T19:50:42Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> (snip) Why target a group of people who don’t possess a sense of humor?

huh, this is interesting, some kind of disconnect, cause this is how I percieve groups that identify themselves a “liberal”, stuffy, stuck up self righteous snobs, kinda funny in a way I guess we all need to step back and laugh at ourselves. Not trying to pick on you specifically LouisB, you just seemed to distill the thought best btw.

That said, Dennis Miller really surprised me, as did Mel Gibson. I have to wonder if its not that there aren’t any conservative funny people, its just that they tend to keep it close to the chest (as has been pointed out already)

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