# Conservatives: Where's the funny? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 6, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526 "2011-06-06T18:43:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/141 "2011-06-09T18:35:00Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > I’m not a Conservative, but didn’t Sam Stone offer some in post 103? You even commented on 'em. And wasn’t it noted that those lines were from _before_ Miller took a sharp right turn on 9/11? Here’s a hint-he jokes about a Martin/Lewis team up, and about the Soviet Union. Where is that current Conservative funny? Miller was funny then, and a conservative now. This does not, in any way, qualify him to be a funny conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/142 "2011-06-09T18:51:11Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > But I apologize for the unnecessary hostility, it’s hot over here but that’s no excuse. No, that’s a fine excuse. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/143 "2011-06-09T18:54:34Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And wasn’t it noted that those lines were from _before_ Miller took a sharp right turn on 9/11? Here’s a hint-he jokes about a Martin/Lewis team up, and about the Soviet Union. > Where is that current Conservative funny? > Miller was funny then, and a conservative now. This does not, in any way, qualify him to be a funny conservative. Here’s a Miller joke that is pretty Conservative in tone, and is post 9/11: > [@](#): > > “Michael Moore simultaneously represents everything I detest in a human being and everything I feel obligated to defend in an American. Quite simply, it is that stupid moron’s right to be that utterly, completely wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/144 "2011-06-09T18:56:32Z")
Does Miller still do regular standup? I have to admit I haven’t seen much about him in a while. I think he’s doing some sort of radio show these days. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/145 "2011-06-09T19:01:02Z")
Why I just lost all respect for Dennis Miller. Now, I generally like Mr. Miller. I do think he’s funny. He has a fantastic wit, great timing, he’s smart, he knows the comedy game, etc. … but his aim is all fucked up. I’ve given him a pass these last 10 years. So he’s conservative; so’s my uncle, but I still like him too. However; I just now caught a few minutes of his radio show. He was making Weiner jokes. That’s fine. But he stopped to break the fourth wall for a moment letting us know that, heck, he generally likes Weiner, but it’s his job to make Weiner jokes. As a comedian and political pundit it is his job to make fun of politicians when they fuck up. Thus spake Miller. Not 5 seconds after he said this he took a call from someone who congratulated him on his appearance on O’Reilly’s show for not bashing Palin. “Well, I like Palin, and I’m just not going to go down that road.” What a fucking hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/146 "2011-06-09T19:06:49Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Here’s a Miller joke that is pretty Conservative in tone, and is post 9/11: > [@](#): > > “Michael Moore simultaneously represents everything I detest in a human being and everything I feel obligated to defend in an American. Quite simply, it is that stupid moron’s right to be that utterly, completely wrong.” That was a joke? Did it make you laugh, or even grin? It seems to be more of a serious off-the-cuff remark. Where is the funny? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/147 "2011-06-09T19:14:27Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Not 5 seconds after he said this he took a call from someone who congratulated him on his appearance on O’Reilly’s show for not bashing Palin. > > “Well, I like Palin, and I’m just not going to go down that road.” > > What a fucking hypocrite. That just reinforces the notion that conservative humor can’t be self-deprecating. It’s fine to make jokes about other people all you want, but I get the sense that his audience would turn on him in a red second if he dared to poke fun at Palin, no matter how funny or justified the jokes might be. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/148 "2011-06-09T19:17:00Z")
Most of the Miller bits **Sam Stone** posted aren’t really political, though. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/149 "2011-06-09T19:18:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That was a joke? Did it make you laugh, or even grin? It seems to be more of a serious off-the-cuff remark. Where is the funny? I would imagine that the same comment by someone like Jon Stewart in regard to Sarah Palin, GWB, Donald Trump, etc. would have your average liberal guffawing. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/150 "2011-06-09T19:22:18Z")
I personally don’t think he’s funny, but a lot of people do. Jeff Dunham, the ventriloquist, is very conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/151 "2011-06-09T19:23:37Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I would imagine that the same comment by someone like Jon Stewart in regard to Sarah Palin, GWB, Donald Trump, etc. would have your average liberal guffawing. I don’t really care about your off-topic imaginings, and I wasn’t being freakin’ rhetorical, bucky. Did or did you not find that comment humorous? Was it a joke? Did it make you laugh? If so, fine. If not, could you please provide a link to a conservative joke that _does_ make you laugh? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/152 "2011-06-09T19:24:43Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I personally don’t think he’s funny, but a lot of people do. Jeff Dunham, the ventriloquist, is very conservative. Are his jokes conservative? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/153 "2011-06-09T19:24:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That was a joke? Did it make you laugh, or even grin? It seems to be more of a serious off-the-cuff remark. Where is the funny? It’s an opinion, not a joke. If someone said the same thing about Bachmann, it wouldn’t be a joke either. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/154 "2011-06-09T19:28:23Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I would imagine that the same comment by someone like Jon Stewart in regard to Sarah Palin, GWB, Donald Trump, etc. would have your average liberal guffawing. I doubt it. Anything said like this would be in a non-humorous apology segment, or maybe during an interview. Not as a joke. It does not have the structure of a joke. It does not break expectations the way a joke does. It does not exaggerate things like a joke does. That is all about its structure, not the content. ETA: I posted my previous comment before I read yours. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/155 "2011-06-09T19:29:04Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > It’s an opinion, not a joke. If someone said the same thing about Bachmann, it wouldn’t be a joke either. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/156 "2011-06-09T19:30:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Are his jokes conservative? I don’t know. This is from his wikipedia page: “Some have accused Dunham’s characters of being racist caricatures, sexist, and homophobic.” Sounds like the same criticism of the Tea Parties. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/157 "2011-06-09T19:34:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I don’t really care about your off-topic imaginings, and I wasn’t being freakin’ rhetorical, bucky. > Did or did you not find that comment humorous? Was it a joke? Did it make you laugh? > If so, fine. > If not, could you please provide a link to a conservative joke that _does_ make you laugh? I wasn’t talking about you there, chief. As you might recall, you already said you didn’t find it funny. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/158 "2011-06-09T19:34:42Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I don’t know. This is from his wikipedia page: “Some have accused Dunham’s characters of being racist caricatures, sexist, and homophobic.” > > Sounds like the same criticism of the Tea Parties. Then he qualifies, in my opinion-but my opinion isn’t what I’m really looking for, Conservatives: Does Jeff Dunham qualify as a good conservative comedian in your eyes? Does his conservative humor make you laugh? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/159 "2011-06-09T19:38:22Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > That just reinforces the notion that conservative humor can’t be self-deprecating. It’s fine to make jokes about other people all you want, but I get the sense that his audience would turn on him in a red second if he dared to poke fun at Palin, no matter how funny or justified the jokes might be. Exactly why the Soviet Union was not a laff riot. Much humor works by building up expectations and breaking them, which is something a group of people very big on orthodoxy don’t like to do. Take Obama and Palin. We have expectation that our candidates are well spoken to some extent. The reason there were few Obama jokes during the campaign was that for the most part he was. Exaggeration jokes about Obama as the Messiah worked a lot better. Palin, on the other hand, couldn’t count to ten without getting tangled up, and so was funny. That was why Tina Fey was funny quoting Palin verbatim. Conservative comedians are lot Fox News. If your primary goal is to support the party, you are not going to be very good at what you are supposed to be doing. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526/160 "2011-06-09T19:41:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Then he qualifies, in my opinion-but my opinion isn’t what I’m really looking for, > Conservatives: Does Jeff Dunham qualify as a good conservative comedian in your eyes? Does his conservative humor make you laugh? You might as well be insisting upon examples of conservative sitcoms. Today’s political climate entertainment-wise won’t tolerate conservative comedians, so one is forced to search nooks and crannies to try to come up with some. And since nook and cranny conservative humor isn’t easily come by, you are left with frustration over the fact that no is coming up with whatever it is that you are for whatever reason insisting upon in terms of conservative humor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-wheres-the-funny/584526.md?page=9)