Yeah, I must say that it was beyond the pale. Calling her the “White House dog” because of her parents and their ideology was definitely a disgrace. It’s not as if she did anything herself to enter the public scene.
ISTR that he received his comeuppance on a late night talk show. He repeated the slur against the high-school aged Chelsea to the host. Jay Leno, maybe? He then had it pointed out to him that he can say that because <<You are a perfect specimen of good looks>> or words to that effect. Rush, who was quite super-sized at the time, was caught off-guard and flustered.
The second example I can accept as a joke, and not just because it made me smile. There are bad jokes that I don’t find funny, but they are still jokes, and I have a bit of trouble seeing even the attempt at humor with the Michael Moore example.
Well, as I said, partisan political humour aimed at a specific individual often doesn’t seem funny. The “humour” frequently comes from having one’s assumptions reconfirmed in an ironical manner - if you don’t share those assumptions, it just looks like a straight attack.
It was on Letterman, and Rush had said that a picture of Hilary in a recent magazine article made her look “like a hood ornament on (some vintage car)”. To which Letterman replied, “Well, you can say that because you’re the best looking thing ever to come along”.
There was a kind of conservative sitcom. I didn’t watch “Family Ties” much, but the Michael J. Fox character was certainly a conservative, and wasn’t written as a buffoon. Yes, there were jokes at his expense, but no more than for his liberal parents. His character was well-written, and it worked.
And your statement that conservative comedians wouldn’t be tolerated is utter bullshit. If they got an audience, they’d be tolerated just fine. Entertainment is a business. However the conservative version of the Daily Show on a network with a built-in audience bombed big time. That is not the entertainment climate, that is bad writing.
PJs early books were funny, conservative, and clever.But he did not think that saying “liberals want to raise your taxes and take away your guns” constituted a joke.
Look, when Wiener screwed up, both Jon Stewart and Colbert jumped on him. Please give me an example of a conservative humorist jumping on the very funny screw-ups by Republicans. A conservative comedian has to be a comedian first and a conservative second - same for liberal comedian. If conservative comedians walk away from good jokes and subjects in order to be politically correct, it is no wonder they suck.
Here is the “joke”
“Michael Moore simultaneously represents everything I detest in a human being and everything I feel obligated to defend in an American. Quite simply, it is that stupid moron’s right to be that utterly, completely wrong.”
Here it is written in the actual form of a joke:
“You know, you think that I’m a conservative, but I’m actually a liberal. I defend the right of Michael Moore to be a stupid moron and utterly, completely wrong.”
Or, the second sentence might be “I won’t discriminate against Michael Moore despite him being …”
Not a good joke, but a bit closer to being a joke. If you could find something Michael Moore said that could be considered supporting discrimination against conservatives, the joke would be a lot better, especially if you made the selfless lack of discrimination parallel.
You don’t get a spate of jokes about a conservative hating gays. You get a spate of jokes when a conservative who hates gays propositions some guy in a bathroom.
I don’t understand where this ‘debate’ continues to come from. Czarcasm and I agree we won’t probably think conservative humor is funny, in fact, that is exactly what we are asking for; humor that conservatives find funny at the expense of liberals.
We are both asking conservatives what they find funny.
Why wouldn’t they count? Those are very funny episodes in my opinion. As I have stated over and over again however, it doesn’t matter one damn bit if I find them humorous. All I ever asked for were examples of conservative comedy that conservatives find humorous. So sorry to disappoint you, but…thank you for the examples.
I don’t see how the story behind the character’s creation is relevant. At most that shows the bias of a single person. The bias of the industry is reflected in what character was actually produced–and that character was not portrayed in a negative light.
There are much better examples you could probably adduce here.
Did you read the linked article? It virtually proves that what I’ve been saying about how conservative entertainers have virtually been shut out by Hollywood and the television industry, and how television producers have worked to influence society toward their liberal views through their programs.
Liberals have been outraged for decades over the anti-communist blacklisting that went on in the forties and fifties, and yet it pales in comparison with the anti-conservative bias and blacklisting that has been going on in Hollywood ever since. So where did the outrage go? Is blacklisting evil, as the left has been telling us indignantly and angrily for over sixty years, or just the blacklisting of liberals?
Good call. I haven’t seen much of Red Eye, but the few clips I have seen have been amusing. The general attitude seems to be “fuck it, it’s 3 AM, who cares what we do?”