# Conservatives:  Why do you support Hillary Clinton for POTUS?

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**Created:** [June 1, 2005, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-why-do-you-support-hillary-clinton-for-potus/306300 "2005-06-01T01:02:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-why-do-you-support-hillary-clinton-for-potus/306300/81 "2005-06-10T01:08:11Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> as a Libertarian, don’t you find the USA PATRIOT Act potentially very threatining to our privacy and civil liberties?

Brain, I’m too tired to reply to all of the above so I’ll limit myself to this last point. First of all I’m a libertarian, not a Libertarian. Haven’t been one of those since late 2001 for obvious reasons.

Yes, yes I’m absolutely terrified of living under the Patriot Act for another four years. The fear is seared, seared in my memory. Here’s my nightmare. I’m engaged in some terrorist activity with one of my buddies and we do our plotting via cell phone. Every few weeks I get a new cell phone because I know that a court ordered wiretap only applies to one phone line, not to a person. So I know I’m safe. Then the unthinkable happens. I’ve forgotten all about the Patriot Act and that the feds are now able to wiretap the new phone immediately based on the original court order. I continue my plotting, get nabbed, and go to a federal prison where I’ll have a better standard of living and more civil rights than 99% of the people living in tyrannies today. Man, have I lost sleep over that one.  
If you are interested in more articulate explanations of why a libertarian should support the WOT I’d suggest reading Neil Boortz or Thomas Sowell.

[http://boortz.com/](http://boortz.com/)

> **[Thomas Sowell: Biography and Latest Articles - Thomas Sowell](https://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/)**
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> Thomas Sowell was born in North Carolina and grew up in Harlem. As with many others in his neighborhood, Thomas Sowell left home early and did not finish high school.

BTW, how have you and your friends had to change your lifestyle because of the Patriot Act?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-why-do-you-support-hillary-clinton-for-potus/306300/82 "2005-06-10T02:53:38Z")

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> [@Plan B](#):
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> BTW, how have you and your friends had to change your lifestyle because of the Patriot Act?

That’s why I said the Act is “potentially” threatening to our privacy and civil liberties. If we ever reach the point where “potentially” no longer applies – well, then it’s too late, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conservatives-why-do-you-support-hillary-clinton-for-potus/306300/83 "2005-06-10T03:46:18Z")

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What a great country this is, where the worst things are potential problems. I bet there are a lot of Cubans, North Koreans, Saudis who wish they could say the same thing.

You can have the last word.

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