# Conspiracy douchebags harrassing Sandy Hook man who helped kids

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 15, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307 "2013-01-15T18:14:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/41 "2013-01-16T02:08:49Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> OK OK, so a bunch of folks have a screw loose … Where does that come from?

You answered your own question. They have a screw or two loose.

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**Author:** ![ASanders](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asanders/32/3367_2.png) [@ASanders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASanders)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/42 "2013-01-16T02:11:48Z")

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> [@Quintas](#):
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> He doesn’t believe it was a hoax as in it didn’'t happen. He believes the shooter was a government agent as was the Aurora shooting. A False flag so Obama can take away people’s guns.

My family has one of these, too. I’ve been regaled with a story of Lanza being mind-controlled via some sort of covert technology to carry out his heinous crime. Not clear on the reason behind it, but hell, is one necessary?

It kills me that an actual blood relative believes this stuff. It gives me an insight into that line between genius and madness–this guy is indeed smarter than most, but I’m certain that somewhere in his future lies a tipping point beyond which he’ll need serious help.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/43 "2013-01-16T02:12:15Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I avoided watching the interviews so I don’t have firsthand knowledge, but I know what **Nzinga** is talking about. To some extent I think it’s the eye of the media that provokes that kind of theatrics-- hard to say. There’s almost nobody alive (at least in the United States) who isn’t totally “camera-aware” by now, particularly younger people. People assume there’s an expectation of displaying public grief, and some people are just naturally hammier than others.

Right. And I think people have watched enough 24-hour news to have internalized what you are ‘supposed’ to say when you’re being interviewed on camera after something tragic happens. That might lend itself to formulaic grieving. But this shit is still insane, and I don’t think this is what makes it happen. Conspiracy theories are about being at the center of the world.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/44 "2013-01-16T02:20:24Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> I could believe that one or two people believe it–Rule 34 and all that–

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> Rule 34 and all that

[What the everliving fuck?](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034)

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/45 "2013-01-16T07:19:29Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> …Conspiracy theories are about being at the center of the world.

Yeah. And being smarter than everyone else.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/46 "2013-01-16T13:33:07Z")

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> **[Sandy Hook Hero Cruelly Harassed By Conspiracy Theorists](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory_n_2481912?utm_hp_ref=crime&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing8%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D257692)**
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> Sandy Hook Hero Cruelly Harassed By Conspiracy Theorists

His all too apparent anguish in the accompanying photo is heartbreaking.

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> A good Samaritan who harbored six terrified survivors of the Sandy Hook massacre has been singled out by conspiracy theorists accusing him of being a liar and an actor.
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> On the morning of the shooting, Gene Rosen of Newtown, Conn., was feeding his cats when he discovered four terrified children hiding out in his driveway. They told him their teacher was dead, and he listened to their chilling account of the tragedy still going on at the nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School.
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> In the aftermath, Rosen, 69, was interviewed by many of the media outlets that descended on the small community, and his anguished face flashed across television screens around the world.
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> The sincerity of that anguish was questioned by a group of conspiracy theorists who call themselves “truthers,” Salon reported earlier this month. These truthers have so far posted Rosen’s personal information online, created fake social media accounts using his name and harassed him via email and phone.

Go to hell you NRA loving b_st_rds.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/47 "2013-01-16T13:37:42Z")

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[You got beat to the punch.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=679081)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/48 "2013-01-16T14:01:58Z")

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Yes. What Pres. Obama needed was _another_ hot button issue to struggle with, because his presidency has been so boring and eventless so far. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/49 "2013-01-16T14:29:10Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> [What the everliving fuck?](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034)

Grief porn, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/50 "2013-01-16T14:37:30Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> [What the everliving fuck?](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034)

I’m _really_ hoping they meant [Poe’s Law](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law).

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/51 "2013-01-16T14:39:46Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> As to a father not appearing “sad enough”, it was the strength of some of those parents in their darkest hour that I found most inspirational. That stood to draw a tear just as forcefully as anything else witnessed in this tragedy.

This. If my son had been one of the victims in a shooting like this, I’d have been catatonic for weeks afterward. But some parents surely have more strength and courage than I do. They’re an example to us all.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/52 "2013-01-16T14:46:42Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Yes. What Pres. Obama needed was _another_ hot button issue to struggle with, because his presidency has been so boring and eventless so far. :rolleyes:

True. It’s like he’s been phoning it in ever since bin Laden’s death.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/53 "2013-01-16T14:52:49Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [You got beat to the punch.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=679081)

Merged duplicate thread.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/54 "2013-01-16T15:22:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [You got beat to the punch.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=679081)

Sorry - missed it.

There are at least 4 or 5 YouTube vids each one claiming he “changed his story” and calling him a pedo. I watched two interviews from two news services and while his story does vary in minor details between the two, the essential facts don’t change.

I believe a police interrogator would be suspicious if he had stuck to the exact same word for word story. At least that what cop TV shows say.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/55 "2013-01-16T15:28:24Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> [What the everliving fuck?](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034)

I’m not sure what the political analog is. Just as there is extant porn for every conceivable scenario, I am convinced that there are believers in every conceivable conspiracy theory–or deviant political configuration. In other words, I don’t think Rule 34 is just for porn anymore.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/56 "2013-01-16T15:39:14Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> I’m not sure what the political analog is. Just as there is extant porn for every conceivable scenario, I am convinced that there are believers in every conceivable conspiracy theory–or deviant political configuration. In other words, I don’t think Rule 34 is just for porn anymore.

I think conspiracy theories are going to need their own number or this will just get weird.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/57 "2013-01-16T16:34:43Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> I’m not sure what the political analog is. Just as there is extant porn for every conceivable scenario, I am convinced that there are believers in every conceivable conspiracy theory–or deviant political configuration. In other words, I don’t think Rule 34 is just for porn anymore.

> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> I think conspiracy theories are going to need their own number or this will just get weird.

Rule 43?

> [@Urban Dictionary](#):
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> You can find anything on the Internet if you are willing to look for it long enough.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/58 "2013-01-16T16:49:58Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> I think conspiracy theories are going to need their own number or this will just get weird.

Or just call it conspiracy porn. Anyone reaching that far to create a conspiracy has to be jacking off to it, right?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/59 "2013-01-16T17:12:34Z")

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> [@voltaire](#):
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> [There’s even a college professor pushing that particular CT to his students.](http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-01-07/news/fl-fau-prof-newtown-20130107_1_sandy-hook-school-massacre-fau-prof-lisa-metcalf)

If I were on the faculty or board of FAU, I would be really upset that that loon had tenure.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/60 "2013-01-16T18:46:31Z")

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I went to FAU. Now we’re known for this guy, and Carrot Top.

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