# Conspiracy douchebags harrassing Sandy Hook man who helped kids **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 15, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307 "2013-01-15T18:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/61 "2013-01-16T18:55:20Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > If I were on the faculty or board of FAU, I would be really upset that that loon had tenure. He even has [some students defending him](http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2013/01/james_tracy_students_fau.php). But take heart, apparently, the university [has begun an investigation](http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2013/01/james_tracy_says_fau_has_opene.php) after complaints from funders. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/62 "2013-01-16T20:04:20Z")
This type of garbage makes me sick. The Sandy Hook shooting was not a CIA conspiracy. It was a FEMA conspiracy. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, TRUTHERS!!! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/63 "2013-01-16T20:45:02Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > This. If my son had been one of the victims in a shooting like this, I’d have been catatonic for weeks afterward. But some parents surely have more strength and courage than I do. They’re an example to us all. I was a bit disturbed just thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/64 "2013-01-16T21:03:06Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > I’m not sure what the political analog is. Just as there is extant porn for every conceivable scenario, I am convinced that there are believers in every conceivable conspiracy theory–or deviant political configuration. In other words, I don’t think Rule 34 is just for porn anymore. Except it IS for porn, and that’s the understood meaning of it. What you’re describing is more akin to Poe’s Law than rule 34. Or rule 43 indeed. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/65 "2013-01-16T22:34:44Z")
> [@](#): > > “I don’t know what to do,” Gene Rosen told [Salon.com](http://Salon.com). “I’m getting hang-up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘How much am I being paid?'” > [@](#): > > Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America… So what was Adam Lanza paid? False-flag ops exist, certainly, but it is no easy matter to find a false-flag operative willing to cap the job with suicide, and Lanza was no Islamist terrorist. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/66 "2013-01-16T22:39:14Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > **steronz** , I don’t have sound at work, and can’t be arsed to sit trhough 30+ minutes of teh krazy. Can you (or someone) give a Rdr’s Dgst version of what the nutters are claiming? Just click the link, mute the sound, and read the comments below. You won’t get the gist, but you will get the point. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/67 "2013-01-16T22:41:03Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > He even has [some students defending him](http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2013/01/james_tracy_students_fau.php). But take heart, apparently, the university [has begun an investigation](http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2013/01/james_tracy_says_fau_has_opene.php) after complaints from funders. > [@](#): > > During his lectures, Tracy questions everything, Cortes says, perhaps not alleging conspiracy theories behind every corner – but definitely implying it. > > “They all have a similar feel,” said Cortes, last year’s editor of FAU’s student publication, the University Press. "It’s a lot of open discussion, sitting in a circle, discussing things and conspiracies come up. It’s really healthy. … He doesn’t say his theories in declarative sentences, but he says, ‘What do you make of this? Do you think something is fishy.’ " See? Just asking questions! It’s not that _he_ believes it… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/68 "2013-01-16T22:41:18Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > In the interest of taking one for the team, here’s a summary of the first 20 minutes. I got bored after that > > * * * > > Initial reports were that there were 2 or 3 gunmen. > > A person was arrested in the woods nearby, but once apprehended wasn’t treated as a suspect. Several teachers survived the incident. Did any one of them see more than one shooter? ---
**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/69 "2013-01-16T22:49:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > So what was Adam Lanza paid? False-flag ops exist, certainly, but it is no easy matter to find a false-flag operative willing to cap the job with suicide, and Lanza was no Islamist terrorist. He wasn’t paid anything. That’s one of the things that makes it such a diabolically clever conspiracy. _hums “Twilight Zone” theme_ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/70 "2013-01-16T22:52:51Z")
> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#): > > [What the everliving fuck?](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034) Well, it’s a **corollary** to Rule 34: Just as no content is so non-erotic that somebody won’t make/appreciate porn of it, so no theory is so crazy that some people won’t believe it. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/71 "2013-01-16T22:56:57Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > This type of garbage makes me sick. > > The Sandy Hook shooting was not a CIA conspiracy. It was a FEMA conspiracy. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, TRUTHERS!!! :mad: 😕 Wouldn’t this fall within the jurisdiction of the **ATF’s** false-flag-ops division? Shit, I hope they don’t make a fuss over this – there’s nothing uglier than a bureaucratic turf-war. (Well, except for random mass shootings, and psychotic conspiracy-theorizing, and practically all lawn ornaments.) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/72 "2013-01-16T22:58:22Z")
[This](http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-nation-reports,30743/) still holds true. Nothing to add. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/73 "2013-01-17T01:25:23Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > True. It’s like he’s been phoning it in ever since bin Laden’s death. > :rolleyes: I’m not sure if you’re agreeing with me or not - my rolleyes was because Pres. Obama has had a presidency full of some of the largest crises ever - I question the idea that he set up the Sandy Hook killings to put one more crisis on his already full plate. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/74 "2013-01-17T01:57:01Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > “They all have a similar feel,” said Cortes, last year’s editor of FAU’s student publication, the University Press. "It’s a lot of open discussion, sitting in a circle, discussing things and conspiracies come up. It’s really healthy. … He doesn’t say his theories in declarative sentences, but he says, ‘What do you make of this? Do you think something is fishy.’ " > > See? Just asking questions! It’s not that _he_ believes it… Come on **Turnip** , I’m disappointed in you! The kid mentions “sitting in a circle” and you don’t make the obvious JAQ’ing-off/circle-jerk joke. Tsk tsk, you’re slipping! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/75 "2013-01-17T02:38:52Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’m not sure if you’re agreeing with me or not - my rolleyes was because Pres. Obama has had a presidency full of some of the largest crises ever - I question the idea that he set up the Sandy Hook killings to put one more crisis on his already full plate. Crisis . . . or opportunity? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/76 "2013-01-17T03:13:44Z")
Lemme share a little bit of truth. In Bridgeport Ct last night, 9,500 people came together and sat in a hockey arena. The ice was covered over. A stage was built. Every seat was free. The cream of Christian-based rock was there. [The Facebook Page on the evening.](http://www.facebook.com/events/315827618517428/) Because all 9,500 seats were free, and claimed online in less than 40 minutes on Day 1 of availability, one of the many people who donated their time and skills and property was a state of the art webcast streaming expert. 125,000 people watched online. Humbled to be asked if I would donate my efforts, I stood on stage and shot it. I sat before during the prayer meeting, where the organizers of the event stood. And spoke. And wept. They wept not because they were from Sandy Hook or Newtown. Or Connecticut. Or the North. They wept because this is an absolute truth. Because they are parents and sons and husbands. They wept as they spoke to the crew and musicians because this slaughter is a reality. Every single person in the audience was from Sandy Hook/ Newtown or otherwise connected with the attack. People stood during the music and sat with tears running down their faces during the non-musical segments when prayers were said and preaching took place. This wasn’t a concert or show or event. It was an evening of peace, of support and connections and an attempt at understanding. Those who are twisted enough to even consider that this is a falsified event should have been forced to sit in that building last night. Fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/77 "2013-01-17T03:46:22Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Several teachers survived the incident. Did any one of them see more than one shooter? Of course not. The only surviving “teachers” were Mossad Agents. It’s pretty obvious, innit? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/78 "2013-01-17T03:55:36Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > Lemme share a little bit of truth. > > In Bridgeport Ct last night, 9,500 people came together and sat in a hockey arena. The ice was covered over. A stage was built. Every seat was free. The cream of Christian-based rock was there. > > [The Facebook Page on the evening.](http://www.facebook.com/events/315827618517428/) > > Because all 9,500 seats were free, and claimed online in less than 40 minutes on Day 1 of availability, one of the many people who donated their time and skills and property was a state of the art webcast streaming expert. > > 125,000 people watched online. > > Humbled to be asked if I would donate my efforts, I stood on stage and shot it. I sat before during the prayer meeting, where the organizers of the event stood. And spoke. And wept. They wept not because they were from Sandy Hook or Newtown. Or Connecticut. Or the North. They wept because this is an absolute truth. Because they are parents and sons and husbands. They wept as they spoke to the crew and musicians because this slaughter is a reality. > > Every single person in the audience was from Sandy Hook/ Newtown or otherwise connected with the attack. > > People stood during the music and sat with tears running down their faces during the non-musical segments when prayers were said and preaching took place. > > This wasn’t a concert or show or event. It was an evening of peace, of support and connections and an attempt at understanding. > > Those who are twisted enough to even consider that this is a falsified event should have been forced to sit in that building last night. > > Fuckers. _sniff_ 125,000! All perfectly duped by the plot! _sob_ It’s so wonderful! Now, let’s not get complacent, Christians are **easy**. . . ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/79 "2013-01-17T13:37:10Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Seriously, someone had to send special comfort dogs to Sandy Hook? You’re looking at the comfort dog issue from the wrong end. It’s not that Sandy Hook required the creation of a comfort dog unit; it’s that people with these dogs have already organized them into a group with the intent of providing comfort, and they are looking for something to do. It’s not like there was an epidemic of uncaught Frisbees landing everywhere before Disk Dog competitions were organized. It’s essentially harmless, and it may do some good for both people and dogs, so I give them a pass. > [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > And back to the FAU professor: he’s using the fact that the media didn’t publish pictures of piles of dead school kids as “evidence” that the killings didn’t really happen. Umm, you can’t think of another good reason as to why media outlets might choose to not publish photos of bullet-riddled kindergartners? You already know this, of course, but he wins either way. [ul] [li]Photos of dead kids = faked[/li][li]No photos = didn’t happen[/li][/ul] Either way, it’s proof he’s right – the government has unlimited power over what we see and read, and the will to exercise it against everyone in the country, except for some reason, him. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/80 "2013-01-17T14:25:21Z")
So they’re using the confusion in the early reporting as proof of a conspiracy? How does that work? I would think that a true conspiracy of this magnitude would be carefully scripted. Of course, then they’d complain that it was too perfect. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307.md?page=5)