# Conspiracy douchebags harrassing Sandy Hook man who helped kids

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**Created:** [January 15, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307 "2013-01-15T18:14:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/81 "2013-01-17T14:47:14Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Crisis . . . or opportunity? 😉

[Crisitunity!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a41eQIO07R4)

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/82 "2013-01-17T16:46:39Z")

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I watched the video, and honestly the clips reporting multiple shooters don’t even appear to come from the same decade as the Newtown coverage, let alone the same event. Just my observations.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/83 "2013-01-17T17:54:04Z")

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Remember the ‘Truther’ mantra folks: The first media reports from the scene are the most accurate. Unless they disagree with your conspiracy theory, or you just don’t feel like watching the whole new report, or…

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/84 "2013-01-17T18:28:49Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> So they’re using the confusion in the early reporting as proof of a conspiracy? How does that work?

I take it you’re new to this whole conspiracy theory thing ? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/85 "2013-01-17T21:21:34Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> This. If my son had been one of the victims in a shooting like this, I’d have been catatonic for weeks afterward. But some parents surely have more strength and courage than I do. They’re an example to us all.

I saw Anderson Cooper with Rosen and a survivor of Aurora, who has also been harassed. Cooper said that many of the parents who had it together during the interview were crying hard before, but felt they had to pull themselves together for the sake of their dead children. On camera behavior is not an indicator of off-camera behavior.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/86 "2013-01-17T21:41:01Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Remember the ‘Truther’ mantra folks: The first media reports from the scene are the most accurate. Unless they disagree with your conspiracy theory, or you just don’t feel like watching the whole new report, or…

if all else fails, make it up as you go along! _Loose Change_, for example. Holes were poked in the first so they made a second in an attempt to fill them, holes were poked in the second so they made a third in an attempt to fill them, holes were poked in the third so…

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/87 "2013-01-17T22:01:30Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> So they’re using the confusion in the early reporting as proof of a conspiracy? How does that work?

_Everything_ is proof of the conspiracy. Especially things that actively disprove it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/88 "2013-01-18T00:05:09Z")

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Please, please, pretty please, let one of those “truther” pieces of trash who are harassing the poor guy get caught and convicted of a crime. What crime? How about harassment? Really, I just can’t see these **W** hacked- **O** ut **N** ut- **J** ob **C** onspiracy- **T** heorists (WONJCT) as all that bright so, maybe \*69 just might be all the investigative acumen needed.

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**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/89 "2013-01-18T00:32:16Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Fortunately, these people fail to realize that they themselves are perhaps the most compelling argument for gun control.
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> **“Hi there! I’m almost completely unable to distinguish the reality of anything going on around me. One thing I do know, though: I really, really need the ability to amass ludicrously extravagant personal firepower, in the event of tyranny/home invasion/societal collapse/carjacking/holy war/etc. Did I mention that I can’t tell whether any of these things are actually occurring or not? Literally anything I see or hear about could be the result of a massive conspiracy. I can’t tell if people are really being killed or not. I can’t tell if people are robots.”**
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> Keep talking, gun conspiracists. Keep telling the rest of us what’s really in your heads, you are doing a fine job.

Understood the bolded part is parody, but there is a lot of truth to be parsed from it.

That said, this just bolsters my argument that there needs to be serious reform concerning the mentally ill. Giving them a bottle of pills and a pat on the head telling them “everything is going to be fine” as they walk them out of the office door just isn’t cutting it anymore…

_Some people are really fucking stupid_ ~ George Carlin. Yep, nailed it there George.

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/90 "2013-01-18T02:48:36Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> I’m a little ashamed to be posting it here, but this was posted on another forum a few days ago:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx\_8&sns=em](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&sns=em)
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> Warning, douchebag content.

Thank you for ruining my day. So much stupid in the world.

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/91 "2013-01-18T02:50:40Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> if all else fails, make it up as you go along! _Loose Change_, for example. Holes were poked in the first so they made a second in an attempt to fill them, holes were poked in the second so they made a third in an attempt to fill them, holes were poked in the third so…

Then their 15 minutes expired.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/92 "2013-01-18T14:16:13Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Probably about 8% of the population, if even that many. That’s roughly the percentage that believes that 9/11 was an inside job; it’s also roughly the percentage that believes Elvis is still alive.

But is it _the same_ 8% that believes all these things?

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/93 "2013-01-18T14:17:53Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Go to hell you NRA loving b_st_rds.

Why are you bringing the NRA into this?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/94 "2013-01-18T14:55:17Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> So they’re using the confusion in the early reporting as proof of a conspiracy? How does that work?.

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I take it you’re new to this whole conspiracy theory thing ? 🙂

It was a rhetorical question. My point being that it doesn’t make sense. Why would a conspiracy lead to confused reporting more so than an actual event would? These people don’t even have a nodding acquaintance with logic.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/95 "2013-01-18T15:26:50Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> But is it _the same_ 8% that believes all these things?

There have been polls about 9/11 and there have been polls whether Elvis is still alive but I don’t think there has been a poll for both.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/96 "2013-01-18T17:48:41Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> Maybe I’m an eternal optimist, but I just can’t believe anyone thinks this.
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> I sincerely hope that it’s just a bunch of 4ch-an trolls that are trying to stir up trouble and that no one actually believes there is some sort of conspiracy.

> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Probably about 8% of the population, if even that many. That’s roughly the percentage that believes that 9/11 was an inside job; it’s also roughly the percentage that believes Elvis is still alive.

> [@Debaser](#):
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> But is it _the same_ 8% that believes all these things?

Considering the type of personality traits and cognitive habits that tend to correlate with CT-acceptance in general, there’s probably quite a bit of overlap.

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**Author:** ![Sally\_Mander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@Sally\_Mander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sally_Mander)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/97 "2013-01-18T18:20:24Z")

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> [@Debaser](#):
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> Maybe I’m an eternal optimist, but I just can’t believe anyone thinks this.
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> I sincerely hope that it’s just a bunch of 4ch-an trolls that are trying to stir up trouble and that no one actually believes there is some sort of conspiracy.

It’s sad, but there are a lot of nut bags out there who are willing to believe anything. There’s a friend of a friend on Facebook who was posting this crap, and was completely unwilling to see reason. I tried posting links to Snopes, and he deleted my posts.  
A few days after the Sandy Hook shootings, he posted about the incident that happened the same day in China where a man stabbed several children and teachers outside their school. No one was killed; IIRC, the injuries were all pretty much superficial. He posted to some website that promoted the “facts” that he had done pretty much the same as the Sandy Hook shooter; he’d gotten into the school, killed several teachers and administrators and 20-some kids, all with a knife. When I proved he was wrong, he insisted it was all a cover-up and insisted he was right and that 20 kids had been knifed to death. It was all part of some conspiracy, but I don’t remember the purpose of said conspiracy.

He’s positive (and has PROOF!!1!1!!) Obama is going to institute martial law, put curfews in place, start rationing food, water and gasoline, and will take away all the guns. There’s also some weird thing he kept talking about where there will also be laws put in place where black people will have to be given preference in hiring (in all job fields, across the board), and white people will just be shit out of luck.

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/98 "2013-01-18T20:20:05Z")

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It’s like these gun people and CT people and the Rapture people _want_ all this exciting (but terrible) stuff to happen. Anything, _anything_ to distract themselves from their boring, sad little lives. And they’re _just_ mentally ill enough that they can’t tell the difference between reality and their dreams of chaos.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/99 "2013-01-18T20:21:08Z")

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**Sally Mander** , I think your last sentence reveals your FB FOAF’s real problem.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-douchebags-harrassing-sandy-hook-man-who-helped-kids/647307/100 "2013-01-18T23:59:32Z")

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They have a [website](http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/) now.

> [@](#):
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> The Official Story of the Sandy Hook School Shooting Is Riddled with Holes

At least it’s tasteful.

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