# Conspiracy idiots, come hither and watch my eyes roll **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 15, 2001, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-idiots-come-hither-and-watch-my-eyes-roll/54658 "2001-02-15T23:24:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-idiots-come-hither-and-watch-my-eyes-roll/54658/41 "2001-02-19T19:55:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BickByro \* > **SPOOFE: tens of thousands of people may have been involved in making parts, but does that mean they had any idea what the bigger picture was? You think every guy or gal who made a part for the Stealth Bomber knew what they were doing? Ever see the movie “Real Genius”? A conspiracy would ultimately have required only a few hundred people, max.** Okay, riddle me this, Bick. Did you see _From the Earth to the Moon_? In it, the best episode (IMO) was the fifth one, called _Spider_. It explained the origin and logic behind selecting the LEM (lunar module) option of landing on the moon. Then, it explained how Grumann, on Long Island, got **a half-billion dollar** contract to build the LEM. Let’s state that again: They got **a half-billion dollar** contract. Why the hell would NASA spend all that money to make a **working lunar module** when it wasn’t going to be used? Oh yeah, I forgot, it was used as a prop. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BickByro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@BickByro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BickByro)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-idiots-come-hither-and-watch-my-eyes-roll/54658/42 "2001-02-19T20:20:35Z")
Like I said, I’d prefer to consolidate over on GD… But that one’s too easy. Grumann got the money, they just used it for things other than building a working LEM (nobody’s saying it would have been CHEAP to fake all this). Or, option 2, Grumann couldn’t, in the end, make a working LEM even with a half billion dollars, so NASA decided to fake it instead. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2001, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-idiots-come-hither-and-watch-my-eyes-roll/54658/43 "2001-02-19T20:43:03Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by KJ \* > \*\*\* My WAG is that light reflecting off the Earth wouldn’t make any visible difference either. I mean, on a sunny day here on Earth, if the moon is in the sky, it won’t cast any shadows on Earth (certainly none that would show up on film.)_\* Good heavens . . . people are having a hard time understanding this. On a sunny day when the moon is in the sky, no, it obviously doesn’t cast a shadow. But on a clear **night** when the moon is up, it **does** cast shadows. When it’s full, you can **read** by it. That’s how bright it is, even at a distance of a quarter of a million miles. When you’re **standing** on the moon, even when it’s daytime and the sun is up, **the sky is black** , just like it is on the Earth at **night**. The sun’s rays aren’t dispersing and scattering through an atmosphere, drowning out the moon’s reflected light. So you’ve got the sun, you’ve got the brightly reflected light from the moon **that you’re standing on** , and you’ve got Earthshine, which is bright enough that when you’re standing on Earth, you can see the waxing crescent moon illuminated by it. Three major light sources, right there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-idiots-come-hither-and-watch-my-eyes-roll/54658.md?page=2)