# Conspiracy Theories **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 17, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352 "2009-07-17T16:30:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/21 "2009-07-17T20:31:42Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > It ([curezone](http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=49)) still seems accessible to me. Not sure why you can’t get to it. Here is the link I use. > > -XT Huh, still doesn’t work for me. Maybe They are blocking it, not wanting me to know their sinister plans. 😕:dubious:😕:eek: ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/22 "2009-07-17T20:37:36Z")
Ah…I thought you were one of us…my bad… _calls up The Organization to put Jackmannii on The List_ -XT ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/23 "2009-07-17T20:56:36Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Ah…I thought you were one of us…my bad… Dude, he is. Check your secret handbook, page 23 paragraph 5. We’re supposed to feign ignorance of the Conspiracy That Must Not Be Named while discussing it in the presence of the uninitiated. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/24 "2009-07-17T21:19:36Z")
fnord ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/25 "2009-07-17T21:20:41Z")
I didn’t see it, it can’t eat me. Oh, wait… fuck! ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/26 "2009-07-17T21:21:44Z")
_flips through secret handbook_ :smack: _picks up pen to call off the death squad hit on Jackmannii_ -XT ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/27 "2009-07-17T21:25:00Z")
UR doin it wrong. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/28 "2009-07-17T21:27:30Z")
Naw…my own writing is confusing enough to be a decent code. 😛 -XT ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/29 "2009-07-17T22:17:22Z")
I’m encouraged that the 9/11 movement has been pretty ghettoized; it seems the only people left believing that stuff are the extreme cases of nuttiness. Back in 2006 or so it seemed poised to take over the nation. Maybe that one’s just so stupid that it self-debunks. The fake moon landing one also seems to have receded, as has the JFK conspiracy fever. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m encouraged. The examples I see of poor critical thinking skills now are people believing in ghosts. That’s just - _weird_ - to me. How could someone get to be an adult and believe in ghosts? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/30 "2009-07-17T22:18:59Z")
😕[the secret](http://www.drnatura.com/picture_gallery.html)😕 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/31 "2009-07-17T22:35:12Z")
Now that is fucking funny. I’ve got crohn’s and I’ve seen footage of my intestines more than I’d like. Nothing all that scary in there, though. Maybe I’m doing something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/32 "2009-07-17T23:57:08Z")
I can’t say it comes up all that often, but I believe many if not most Thais believe the moon landings were faked. I knew a Thai IT expert who was always sending out e-mail “proof” to that effect. From time to time, they’ll show that TV program purporting to “prove” that, and it’s quite popular. But then Thais and others in neighboring countries are extremely gullible to begin with. For example, the wife has two cousins – a pair of sisters – who both have master’s degrees, but they readily believe anything that pops up in their e-mail inbox, their reasoning being why would someone bother to send around something that’s not true. It’s quite common to read in the news of some housewife or other who gave her life savings to a couple of Africans she’d just met for the chemicals that will turn blank pieces of paper into US$100 bills. I have a particular distaste for French actress Marion Cotillard, who herself has publicly proclaimed her disbelief in the reality of the moon landings and the 9/11 attacks. [Cite](http://www.beyondhollywood.com/gallery/marion-cotillard-thinks-911-and-the-moon-landing-were-faked/). Stupid airhead bitch. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/33 "2009-07-18T00:12:28Z")
Regarding the Moon landing, I still remember one of the parting shots that one of the notorious CTs on the Dope launched at us back in 2001: (Who cares what his name was.) [QUOTE=] This is history in the making. In 5 or 10 years (hopefully less) children will read about the faked Apollo missions, and will be taught that lies only lead to more and bigger lies, and teachers will use NASA and the US Government as their prime examples. [/QUOTE] Almost ten years later, I’m a teacher and I can report that there are no hints that history will change regarding one of the greatest achievements of the 20th century. > **[Najlepsi polscy bukmacherzy luty2026 : ranking](https://zakladysports.pl)** > > Poznaj najlepszych legalnych bukmacherów w , zgarnij bonus na start i obstawiaj bezpiecznie ulubione dyscypliny sportowe. [del]The moon[/del] Time is a harsh mistress to the Moon Conspiracy theorists. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/34 "2009-07-18T00:20:44Z")
My best friend has started to fall into a bunch of these lately. We’ve known each other for more than 20 years now and I’ve never felt so distant from him. A year or two ago he started passing around 9/11 Conspiracy videos and I was kind of like wtf, and he tells me “yeah, I know, it’s bullshit, it’s bullshit,” and then he passes them around again :rolleyes:. Then just recently he started talking about aliens. He’s sure there’s a government coverup and it’ll all be blown open within the next couple years. He also believes it’s “common knowledge” that Nikola Tesla invented working anti-gravity and perpetual motion devices and the government has supressed them. And that Carl Sagan was a puppet for the government. And most recently, _after voting for the man 9 short months ago_, he’s all over this “Obama Deception” thing. Thinks trillionaire bankers/shadow governments control the world, Obama is a puppet who was groomed since birth to be the fake president, every president since JFK has been fake, North American Union, New World Order, and on and on and on. And he’s being fairly abrasive about it. “This is what’s REALLY going on.” “Sit down and watch this and LEARN something, FOOLS.” I just have no tolerance for this crap. It’s like someone getting in my face and shouting that the Earth is 6,000 years old and God buried dinosaur bones. It’s beyond frustrating. I’m genuinely upset and unnerved about it. Feel like I’m losing him. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/35 "2009-07-18T00:37:32Z")
Oh, and RIP Walter. ☹ [http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/walter-cronkite-iconic-anchorman-dies/](http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/walter-cronkite-iconic-anchorman-dies/) [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_sWmD6NvMY) I’m glad to see that he made it to the anniversary of the Launch of Apollo 11. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/36 "2009-07-18T00:49:13Z")
I wonder how many in the Western world actually believe in them. I suspect for a large number it is just some kind of entertainment. I gladly watch the JF movie and the X-Files. Doesn’t mean I believe anything I see. It’s just entertainment. This is pretty entertaining too: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo6aHSY8hU) ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/37 "2009-07-18T01:10:41Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Simply false. > It was publicly published in 1954. > That nobody knew about it at all before then is possible, but unlikely. > It wasn’t a conspiracy of silence, it just wasn’t popular knowledge any more than you know what chemical formula Dow Chemicals is currently experimenting on. > > Er… that was for Gonzo. > **[Tuskegee Syphilis Study](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male)** > > The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male (informally referred to as the Tuskegee Experiment or Tuskegee Syphilis Study) was a study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the United States Public Health Service (PHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on a group of nearly 400 African American men with syphilis as well as a control group without. The purpose of the study was to observe the effects of the disease when untreated, to the point of death and The P... Note the study continued until 1972 when it was leaked to the press. Leaked to the press mean any thing to you. But then it was Finn lying again. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/38 "2009-07-18T01:52:58Z")
Well, damn, a wiki cite! I am undone, woe is me. Oh, wait, no. [Olansky, S.; L. Simpson, et al. (1954). “Environmental factors in the Tuskegee study of untreated syphilis”. Public Health Rep 69 (7): 691–8.](http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2024316) Exactly as I said, it was published to the public in 1954. You being ignorant of basic facts does not exactly mean I’m lying. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/39 "2009-07-18T02:10:20Z")
[http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O119-TuskegeeExperiment.html](http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O119-TuskegeeExperiment.html) Woe is you. Peter Buxtun a whisleblower released the story in 1972. It became a public outrage and was terminated . Woe is you. Are you claiming some obscure publication counts as public knowledge? Then explain the outcry when it actually did get out. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352/40 "2009-07-18T02:21:39Z")
Just moving right along, eh? So, you were totally wrong, it was published in 1954 even though in your ignorance you foolish called that fact a “lie”, and now you’re presented an auto-caricature of your argument by claiming that Public Health Reports is “obscure”. It is the journal of the US Public Health Service. Ya know, the folks who ran the Tuskegee study? Yet again, your ignorance does not say anything about external reality. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theories/503352.md?page=3)