# Conspiracy Theorists

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [November 17, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333 "2012-11-17T18:30:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jetblast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@Jetblast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jetblast)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/1 "2012-11-17T18:30:10Z")

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I recently answered a post about me in a thread that wasn’t about the original Jimi Hendrix murder topic. The poster did not answer my argument that disproved what he said about me. Predictably the moderator stepped-in and demanded on-topic. I have no problem with that, only the on-topic thread was locked after I had similarly disproven such claims in that thread earlier.  
I have to protest because the moderator came in and called Hendrix’s murder a "non-murder’ and also entered the comment that the shoot-down of TWA Flight 800 was also a false conspiracy theory.  
I protest that this violates the moderator’s own site rules by flaming a poster.  
I also protest that the open calling of TWA 800 and Hendrix as being uncredible conspiracy theories by a moderator is a fatal violation of moderator neutrality. The moderator not only shows a clear fatal bias but also enforces it without any chance of objective consideration. Remember this board that calls itself the “Straight Dope”. Pretty rich considering.

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     I have no problem with site rules. Only the ones that are clearly being used to censor content by obviously biased moderators. The argument I made proving Jimi's murder went unanswered on the "Straight Dope" board. In fact it was flagrantly censored using strict concern for site rules.
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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/2 "2012-11-17T18:44:55Z")

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This thread is no good without links!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/3 "2012-11-17T18:47:48Z")

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I’ll do better than that and post the what the mods said.

> [@Calling all Great Minds: The Theory of Everything](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/366):
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> This is one of the reasons it’s annoying when people call out other posters who aren’t participating. We’re not debating Jimi Hendrix’s non-murder in this thread, nor are we debating the fictional conspiracy suppressing the truth about TWA 800. We’re debating **Anthem (0)**'s theory, whatever the heck it is. If you want to comment on that, do so. If not, don’t hijack this thread. That also goes for people who want to snipe at conspiracy theorists. Confine your comments to the thread topic, everyone.

> [@Calling all Great Minds: The Theory of Everything](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/370):
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> After almost 500 posts, yes, I did. Now: either enter the discussion **Anthem 0** ’s Theory of Everything or start/post in another thread about something else. Comments about moderation belong in the ATMB forum.

Regarding the TWA thread (which is still open):

> [@Anybody up for a TWA 800 discussion?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-up-for-a-twa-800-discussion/490944/517):
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> You **asserted** a lot of things, but have failed to produce a single bit of evidence to support your assertions. Where is the testimony of an actual expert, (not a CT loon) that a fuel-air exposion in a heated tank could not appear like an ordnance explosion from a distance of over ten miles?  
> You have not proided it.
> 
> I have not abandoned any points. I simply decline to continue posting evidence with actual links to actual events when you are going to dismiss them, deny the evidence of your own eyes, then post more things that you have invented or quoted from loons without even bothering to provide links so that we may see that you have not misquoted anyone or manipulated the quote.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/4 "2012-11-17T18:55:24Z")

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And why was that Hendrix thread closed 2½ years ago?

> [@Jimi Hendrix Was Murdered](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jimi-hendrix-was-murdered/525578/495):
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> Jetblast, consider yourself warned for being a jerk. SDMB users are not allowed to wish death on each other and I have lost patience with your sneering.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/5 "2012-11-17T19:04:07Z")

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That’s some pretty blatant censorship right there.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/6 "2012-11-17T20:48:36Z")

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[The thread under discussion.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15708455)

> [@Jetblast](#):
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> I protest that this violates the moderator’s own site rules by flaming a poster.

It’s not even close. I didn’t flame you. I said your ideas are wrong because they are.

> [@](#):
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> I also protest that the open calling of TWA 800 and Hendrix as being uncredible conspiracy theories by a moderator is a fatal violation of moderator neutrality.

I agree that my comments were not at all neutral. In my defense, the facts aren’t neutral either. This is not the first time someone has referred to your Hendrix conspiracy theory as one of the most ridiculous ideas that has ever been posted to this site. However the thread at hand was not about Hendrix or TWA 800, so I don’t think it matters much that I stated my own opinion on those theories. The most important issue was stopping the thread hijack, which I believe has been accomplished after several mod notes. I did not tell you you couldn’t discuss your theories in a more appropriate venue.

> [@](#):
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> The argument I made proving Jimi’s murder went unanswered on the “Straight Dope” board.

While you no doubt continue to believe your theory, [your argument certainly didn’t go unanswered.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=548518) Eric Burdon remains at large, however.

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**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/7 "2012-11-17T22:24:35Z")

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Start your own board where you have control, that’ll show them.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/8 "2012-11-17T22:39:10Z")

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> [@ed\_anger](#):
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> Start your own board where you have control, that’ll show them.

With blackjack. And hookers!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/9 "2012-11-17T22:45:17Z")

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It’s a **Jetblast** from the past!

I drink to your return, **Jetblast**. Gallons of wine. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/10 "2012-11-17T23:04:52Z")

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“No reason to get excited,”  
The thief, he kindly spoke  
“There are many here among us  
Who think that life is but a joke  
But you and I, we’ve been through that  
And that is not our fate  
So let us not talk falsely now  
Because the hour is getting late”

All I got is a red guitar  
Three chords  
And the truth

All I got is a red guitar  
The rest is up to you

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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/11 "2012-11-17T23:13:17Z")

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Are you comparing the OP to Bono, or Bob Dylan?

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/12 "2012-11-17T23:32:47Z")

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Neither. It’s a general statement I think is applicable to the situation as a whole.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/13 "2012-11-18T01:28:37Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Eric Burdon remains at large, however.

Somebody needs to track down that animal, or else we’re gonna have to declare war.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/14 "2012-11-18T03:26:39Z")

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So let me get this straight. Zombie Hendrix shot down Flight 800 and then was murdered (if you can murder the undead) because of it? Or was he secretly not dead in the first place and had only faked his death years before in order to go underground as a secret agent?

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/15 "2012-11-18T04:13:13Z")

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I am rather puzzled, I thought that Jimi Hendrix, like Janis Joplin, and Mama Cass Eliot died of seriously bad lifestyle choices … [alcohol, drugs, obesity related issues]?  
I didn’t know he was supposedly murdered.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/16 "2012-11-18T05:25:41Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> I am rather puzzled, I thought that Jimi Hendrix, like Janis Joplin, and Mama Cass Eliot died of seriously bad lifestyle choices … [alcohol, drugs, obesity related issues]?  
> I didn’t know he was supposedly murdered.

Jetblast’s thread on the subject, [Jimi Hendrix Was Murdered](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=548518), in which he presents his theory that Michael Jeffery, Hendrix’s manager, paid some people to kill Hendrix because Hendrix was going to fire Jeffery.

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**Author:** ![Jetblast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@Jetblast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jetblast)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/17 "2012-11-18T14:16:30Z")

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I think the troll content of that 500 posts, as shown here, speaks enough for the credibility of a site that proclaims to be “fighting ignorance” and giving the ‘Straight Dope’.  
This is contempt.

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**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/18 "2012-11-18T14:50:19Z")

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> [@Jetblast](#):
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> I think the troll content of that 500 posts, as shown here, speaks enough for the credibility of a site that proclaims to be “fighting ignorance” and giving the ‘Straight Dope’.  
> This is contempt.

It’s a shame when a mostly intelligent and fairly well spoken individual loses their mind. I mean really - you present these theories with all the diction and grammar of an english teacher. But then you ignore all the facts that are presented to challenge them. You can’t do that. Even if you think they’re wrong. At least investigate these things which other people believe disprove you. If you aren’t convinced, fine.

But whatever the case, you may want to consult a psych-doctor. Not sure if -iatrist or -ologist. If you pick the wrong one, they’ll direct you to the right one I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/19 "2012-11-18T14:51:44Z")

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> [@Jetblast](#):
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> This is contempt.

At long last, something we can all agree on. However what you are seeing is not trolling. It’s just mockery. Your ideas have been roundly mocked in the other thread, but there were plenty of serious responses.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2012, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/conspiracy-theorists/641333/20 "2012-11-18T14:51:46Z")

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> [@Jetblast](#):
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> This is contempt.

Yes, yes it is.

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