# Constantine movie

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 16, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502 "2004-07-16T22:53:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502/21 "2005-01-10T14:22:20Z")

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Words cannot describe how large my “oh you _are_ shitting me?!” moment was when i first saw the details for this film ☹

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> So they made an instantly forgetable movie based on some obscure comic. Just be like everyone else and don’t go see it.

Don’t leap straight to the “Oh Jesus, the comic geeks are off on one…” conclusion so quickly.

This isn’t a case of “OMG THEY GOT HIS COSTUME COLOUR WRONG!!!111” its a situation whereby the movie bears nigh-on no resemblance to the material on which its supposedly based.

Why does that matter?

Because its a waste of a good premise and a potentially good film plot. If you’re going to make a film thats so drastically different from the source then why bother using the hellblazer licence anyway?

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**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502/22 "2005-01-10T17:46:06Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> I picked up the Comic adaptation of the movie the other day. Not even Steven Seagal could save this fetid train wreck.

Please tell me the train wreck in question was not summoned forth by Mike Carey’s pen. (It couldn’t have been. It _couldn’t_ have been . . .)

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**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502/23 "2005-01-10T18:11:49Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> If Marvel owned hellblazer and GL (or Catwoman!), neither of these movie would be made until they pulled their act together and made something close to being watchable.

If you’re bashing Catwomen and praising Marvel, obviously you never saw Punisher.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502/24 "2005-01-10T18:38:48Z")

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> [@Moody Bastard](#):
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> Please tell me the train wreck in question was not summoned forth by Mike Carey’s pen. (It couldn’t have been. It _couldn’t_ have been . . .)

No, the adaption was written by Steven Seagle. I could be spelling his name wrong. He was the writer on Sandman Mystery Theatre a couple of years ago. I like his writing. He shows a lot of imagination, good charaterization, and tight plots.

None of which you would have seen in this adaptation he had to write.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502/25 "2005-01-10T18:39:57Z")

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> [@RogueRacer](#):
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> If you’re bashing Catwomen and praising Marvel, obviously you never saw Punisher.

Punisher wasn’t a good adaptation either (the comic Punisher would never play stupid mind-games and set his enemies against each other; he’d just go in guns a-blazing… and what was with moving the setting to TAMPA?), but at least it was recognizable. Even Daredevil, in all its mediocrity, was well-intentioned and obviously made by someone who knew the comics. Marvel has Avi Arad in place to make sure the Hollywood projects are done SOME justice.

But the DC movies since Burton’s Batman 1 and 2 have been a different story. Catwoman, like Steel and Batman and Robin before it, and Constantine sure to follow, was a travesty, a complete disregard of the source material by filmmakers who thought they were too good for comic books and, as it turns out, weren’t good enough to make watchable movies either.

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**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constantine-movie/255502/26 "2005-01-10T19:41:30Z")

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I can’t comment much on how close they follow source material since I never followed DC comics and I haven’t read Marvel for 20 years. I can say that in my opinion the Punisher, Hulk, and Daredevil movies are no better (or worse) than Catwoman or some of the later Batman movies. The X-Men and Spiderman franchises are obviously far above these movies.

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