# Constitution be damned, the FDA is moving ahead to ban almond milk (so says the washington examiner) \[Note just the word milk is being banned\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 21, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046 "2022-08-21T20:01:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/21 "2022-08-21T21:09:14Z")
I havent found soy milk anywhere lately. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/22 "2022-08-21T21:10:51Z")
A good scientific cite would be great, last time I saw one, Almond Milk was not better than Milk for water usage and when you add in location, location, location, a lot worse. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/23 "2022-08-21T21:18:38Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > How does oat milk froth? Weirdly, that’s not the reason, but someone posted that in Scotland, it’s against the law to use oat milk in a latte. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/24 "2022-08-21T21:21:18Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > in Scotland, it’s against the law to use oat milk in a latte And this is a country where you’re allowed to put a Mars Bar in a deep fat fryer. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/25 "2022-08-21T21:21:20Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > As far as this stupid law is concerned, it has nothing to do with nutrition, it is only about the power of the dairy lobby and whatever politicians and bureaucrats they have bought. Not at all. Would you like pork products labeled as beef? It is a labeling issue. They even had a court case about Grapenuts (some grape sugar, but no grapes, and no nuts) but they won as it wasn’t Grape- nuts, it was one word, which is a fantasy word, like tuttifruity, which also contains no fruit. “Almond milk” contains no milk. And it differs quite a bit in nutrition. Truth in Labeling is an EXCELLENT law. > [@Riemann](#): > > Given the issues with almonds, something is surely wrong when I can buy 40oz of almonds on Amazon $13. Massive surplus this year, due to over-production, supply chain, and perhaps no sales to Russia. CA Almond growers are wasting massive amount of water in a very dry year. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/26 "2022-08-21T21:23:48Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > And this is a country where you’re allowed to put a Mars Bar in a deep fat fryer. True, but och, laddie: ye canna make a latte withoat milk! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/27 "2022-08-21T21:24:13Z")
I think the name Almond Milk simply implies that it can be used in place of Milk Milk. If anyone out there in the populace thinks that someone is squeezing cow’s milk from an almond, we’re in a lot worse shape than I figured. The word “Milk” in the term “Almond Milk” is entirely harmless and not misleading. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/28 "2022-08-21T21:47:37Z")
There has never been such a thing as almond milk, soy milk, oat milk. To quote Lewis Black: No teat, no milk. 😃 It should really be called soy juice, almond juice. That’s not as appetizing sounding, but it’s what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/29 "2022-08-21T21:55:56Z")
Almond milk isn’t milk, so I have no problem whatsoever with a rule against labeling it as such. On the other hand, peanut butter isn’t butter (neither is almond butter, apple butter, etc.), and that doesn’t seem to be a problem. What about “cream” (as opposed to “creme”)—is that word restricted to the actual dairy product? What about “cheese”—can there be non-dairy cheese? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/30 "2022-08-21T21:59:23Z")
Also, are “they” going after all of the other milk alternatives, or just the pesky almonds? > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > …peanut butter isn’t butter… This is a perfect example of how silly this entire fight is. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/31 "2022-08-21T22:01:42Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > To quote Lewis Black: No teat, no milk. Thank you! I thought y’all were slipping! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6_wDEjCpeOc/hqdefault.jpg "Moo cow F\*@k milk lewis black") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_wDEjCpeOc) Also, what the fuck does any of this have to do with the Constitution? ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/32 "2022-08-21T22:07:53Z")
To, you sure it just means it can be used in place of milk-milk. That’s what it means to me, also. But I guarantee there are plenty of people who don’t think that actual milk is being squeezed from a cow but instead that hazelnut, pecan and almond milks are similar to chocolate, strawberry and banana milks. Not “milks” that are made from those nuts but cow’s milk flavored by those nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/33 "2022-08-21T22:11:44Z")
As for peanut butter, I suppose that came about because we spread them all with a knife?? Of course, you don’t have to spread them to eat them… ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/34 "2022-08-21T22:13:28Z")
We’d better rename it, but not til we get almond butter first! Almond-paste, peanut-paste. We’ve got to be literal with this, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/35 "2022-08-21T22:22:35Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > And this is a country where you’re allowed to put a Mars Bar in a deep fat fryer. From a country where they put an oil-in-water emulsion into an aerosol can and call it Easy Cheese. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/36 "2022-08-21T22:24:50Z")
But they were a step ahead of the feds, because they called it “Cheez”. Perhaps the almond milk makers should just change the spelling to reflect how so many dear people pronounce it: “Melk” Almond Melk ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/37 "2022-08-21T22:40:56Z")
[Bart Simpson drink plenty of Malk. The Simpsons - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovfM7dvFto0) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/38 "2022-08-21T22:45:45Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Almond Melk Just go all the way and call it Elmond Malk, then you can make it from wood pulp. ---
**Author:** ![Mortimus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Mortimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mortimus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/39 "2022-08-21T22:46:54Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > From a country where they put an oil-in-water emulsion into an aerosol can and call it Easy Cheese To be fair, there’s usually some sort of whey solids or other legit dairy stuff mixed into aerosol propelled chemical slurry. Spray cheez isn’t entirely devoid of nutritional value. I’m waiting for spray almond cheez. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitution-be-damned-the-fda-is-moving-ahead-to-ban-almond-milk-so-says-the-washington-examiner-note-just-the-word-milk-is-being-banned/970046/40 "2022-08-21T22:48:16Z")
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