# Constitutional rights we all should have.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [May 6, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087 "2016-05-06T18:42:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/1 "2016-05-06T18:42:19Z")

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The right to orgasm at least once annually.

1 pint monthly of butter pecan ice cream.

One elected politician to stone to death annually, and free travel to the place of stoning for everyone who wants to participate. And free stones.

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### Author: ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/2 "2016-05-06T19:02:41Z")

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I would be happy with expanding the freedom of religion protections to philosophy/secular belief.

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### Author: ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/3 "2016-05-06T19:57:31Z")

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One orgasm a year? That is supposed to be a good thing?

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### Author: ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/4 "2016-05-06T20:02:53Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> One orgasm a year? That is supposed to be a good thing?

It’s a guaranteed minimum, provided by the government if not obtained by other means.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/5 "2016-05-06T20:04:14Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> It’s a guaranteed minimum, provided by the government if not obtained by other means.

I trust the government to do a lot of things, but I’m drawing the line here.

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### Author: ![JcWoman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jcwoman/32/2889_2.png) [@JcWoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JcWoman)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/6 "2016-05-06T20:28:15Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> 1 pint monthly of butter pecan ice cream.

Chocolate fudge for me, thanks. Oh, and I reserve the right to not gain weight because of it. (If we get to make the rules…)

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> One elected politician to stone to death annually, and free travel to the place of stoning for everyone who wants to participate. And free stones.

YES! Thank you so much. I want to join the Stoning Party!

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### Author: ![NeonMadman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58f4c7/32.png) [@NeonMadman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NeonMadman)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/7 "2016-05-06T20:29:00Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I would be happy with expanding the freedom of religion protections to philosophy/secular belief.

If atheists are going to keep going around claiming that atheism isn’t a belief, it’s simply a lack of belief (in order to avoid having to shoulder any burden of proof), then I can’t see why they would expect to be covered by religious freedom protections.

That said, I think that generally atheists and secularists do pretty much enjoy the same freedoms that theists do. Secularist organizations can register as non-profits and enjoy similar tax breaks as churches. And I certainly don’t see anyone trying to suppress secular speech in public forums. So what’s the problem?

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### Author: ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/8 "2016-05-06T20:36:45Z")

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It should be my right to tell off my employer with impunity, at least once per year. Absolutely no retaliation permitted.

It should be my right to receive one, absolutely perfect, watermelon per summer. Just the right ripeness and sweetness.

Count me in on the politician stoning.

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### Author: ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/9 "2016-05-06T20:47:24Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> One elected politician to stone to death annually, and free travel to the place of stoning for everyone who wants to participate. And free stones.

Will the government also supply beards for women attending stonings?

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### Author: ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/10 "2016-05-06T23:28:53Z")

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Atheism is a belief, one I happen to hold. Agnosticism is lack of belief.

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### Author: ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/11 "2016-05-06T23:44:11Z")

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It falls under “pursuit of happiness”. It’s in the Declaration of Independence, but did not make the cut for a Constitutional Right.

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### Author: ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/12 "2016-05-07T00:49:42Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Atheism is a belief, one I happen to hold. Agnosticism is lack of belief.

Exactly wrong, and I say it as an atheist.

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### Author: ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/13 "2016-05-07T01:00:37Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Atheism is a belief, one I happen to hold. Agnosticism is lack of belief.

That’s backwards.  
An atheist lacks belief in god(s).  
An agnostic believes that it’s not possible to know if god(s) do or do not exist.

You have to have some faith to be agnostic. You can’t have any to be atheist.

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### Author: ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/14 "2016-05-07T01:09:55Z")

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I think people are using different definitions for the word “believe” and “belief”.

Atheists believe there is no god. It is their belief that no god(s) exist. Is this not true?

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### Author: ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/15 "2016-05-07T01:19:59Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I trust the government to do a lot of things, but I’m drawing the line here.

“I’m from the government, and I’m here to give you your handjob.”

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### Author: ![spamforbrains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@spamforbrains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spamforbrains)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/16 "2016-05-07T01:25:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Atheists believe there is no god. It is their belief that no god(s) exist. Is this not true?

No, atheists don’t believe. The preponderance (OK, all of it) of evidence indicates there are no gods, so they proceed through life operating under that hypothesis.  
“Lazy writing/speech” sometimes collapsing this process into saying “I believe X” in daily life and by scientists about a lot of topics, but they don’t really mean “they believe X.” They mean the evidence supports X.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/17 "2016-05-07T01:29:25Z")

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The constitutional right to melvin any politician that doesn’t directly answer a question given during a press conference or debate. The answer can be even be “I refuse to answer”, but any attempt to slickly change the subject, or pretend not to hear the question-atomic wedgie time!

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### Author: ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/18 "2016-05-07T01:32:21Z")

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> [@Rhiannon8404](#):
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> I think people are using different definitions for the word “believe” and “belief”.
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> Atheists believe there is no god. It is their belief that no god(s) exist. Is this not true?

It’s kind a semantics game at this point. Sure, you can say I “believe” there is no god, but in the same way I “believe” there is no Santa.  
It’s not something that I talk about all that often so I’ve never really worked on how exactly to express it without coming off like an ass and saying “I know there’s no god” since I’m not a ‘militant’ atheist, in fact, when the subject comes up, I usually just use some variation of “I’m not religious”.  
Having said that…IMO, there’s a difference (again with the semantics, I know) between “I don’t believe in god” or “I lack belief in god” and “I believe there is no god”  
I guess, for me, getting rid of the phrase “I believe” is what sets the _a_theism apart from the theism.

a-theism  
without-belief.

ETA because I looked up the suffix  
ag-theism  
ambiguous-belief

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/19 "2016-05-07T01:43:59Z")

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> [@NeonMadman](#):
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> If atheists are going to keep going around claiming that atheism isn’t a belief, it’s simply a lack of belief (in order to avoid having to shoulder any burden of proof), then I can’t see why they would expect to be covered by religious freedom protections.

Wait, how are _atheists_ the ones who are supposed to be bringing proof, here? Y’all are the ones making claims, not us.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/constitutional-rights-we-all-should-have/754087/20 "2016-05-07T01:48:16Z")

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The constitutional right to melvin thread hijackers. 😃

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