# Construct: Are you for real? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501 "2015-08-11T00:12:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/1 "2015-08-11T00:12:57Z")
Poe’s Law is in force. This is played so straight: > [@What if Trump wins the 2016 presidential election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/62): > > Cuckservative isn’t racist. It’s simply the correct observation that only White people can preserve traditional American values. The GOP can’t convert Mexicans and Guatemalans to free market capitalism because those people lack a cultural tradition of individuality or free markets. If conservatives want to preserve American values, they have to preserve a White America. Liberals implicitly realize this, which is why they push for third-world immigration - they correctly understand there’s no risk of these people being converted to tea partiers. But the GOP doesn’t get this and is unconcerned about the demographic decline of the only group that has ever supported American conservatism in large numbers. > [@What if Trump wins the 2016 presidential election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/70): > > I’d like to see that happen as much as the next guy, but I can recognize that it won’t. Leftist governments may be responsible for economic and social failure, but leftism is itself a consequence of cultural and environmental factors. And even though Zimbabwe probably should abandon Marxism, fly in Chicago school economists, and establish a government based on Lockean principles, they almost certainly won’t. It’s not impossible for non-White societies to create Western style governments, as Pinochet’s Chile and Singapore can attest, but it is very uncommon. And as such, if the US wants to maintain a traditional American government and way of life, we need to maintain traditional American people: Whites. Um, dude, that’s textbook racism. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/2 "2015-08-11T00:16:35Z")
Can I get a list, please, of what American Values are? Because, goddammit, it sure seems to depend on who it is that’s talking about them. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/3 "2015-08-11T00:18:17Z")
I vote “not for real.” I realize it comes across as terribly smug for liberals to claim that a conservative poster must be a troll. But honestly it would be more bias-confirming for me to think \*\*Construct \*\*was sincere. His posts are easily the most over-the-top of any poster here, save maybe one or two well-known cases. He used the word intersectionality in a thread. The Venn Diagram of overt racists who know that word is pretty much just two separate circles. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/4 "2015-08-11T00:26:42Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > He used the word intersectionality in a thread. The Venn Diagram of overt racists who know that word is pretty much just two separate circles. He does seem to be good at matching whole rows of racism bingo in his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/5 "2015-08-11T00:33:44Z")
[Who says Pinochet wasn’t white?](http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02071/pinochet__2071357b.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/6 "2015-08-11T00:33:47Z")
His posts are generally memorable for their complete lack of substance in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/7 "2015-08-11T00:53:36Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > I vote “not for real.” > > I realize it comes across as terribly smug for liberals to claim that a conservative poster must be a troll. But honestly it would be more bias-confirming for me to think \*\*Construct \*\*was sincere. His posts are easily the most over-the-top of any poster here, save maybe one or two well-known cases. > > He used the word intersectionality in a thread. The Venn Diagram of overt racists who know that word is pretty much just two separate circles. He also used “beg the question” correctly. I was amazed. But yeah. He’s either a troll, or David Dukes. ---
**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/8 "2015-08-11T01:05:56Z")
You’re incompetent and this is a bad pitting. I deserve better, so here are some of my more memorable posts (bolding added): > [@Do the police ever kill some of those "battle-ready" private citizens standing in a group?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-police-ever-kill-some-of-those-battle-ready-private-citizens-standing-in-a-group/727199/26): > > I agree completely. Cops should brutally suppress criminals of all races by whatever means necessary… > [@Intellectually, What Does Islam Offer The West?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectually-what-does-islam-offer-the-west/724949/98): > > Theology doesn’t matter. The past doesn’t matter. What matters is reality, right now, and in the real world **Islam is a dangerous and barbarous religion that has spent thousands of years trying desperately to subjugate every corner of the earth (thankfully, they were stopped by the low intelligence and incompetence of non-Jewish non-European peoples)**. If you deny that the Islamic world is an incomparably worse place to live than the West, you’re just as close-minded and ignorant as any of the groups (creationists, GMO advocates, anti-vaccinaters) you consider yourself superior to. > > Your transparently biased sources seem to be desperately trying to deny that cultural practices associated with Islam exist only in that culture. > > In the end, though, it doesn’t matter: it is the things you value, like feminism, equality, LGBT rights, and sexual liberation, that will be the first to go. > [@Intellectually, What Does Islam Offer The West?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectually-what-does-islam-offer-the-west/724949/113): > > …It’s not terrorism if it’s government enforced; \*\*get out of Christian lands or die. Muslims are interlopers with no right to be in Europe. \*\*Europeans have kicked out Muslims before, and they can easily do it again. > [@Intellectually, What Does Islam Offer The West?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectually-what-does-islam-offer-the-west/724949/109): > > Do you accept or deny the scientific consensus that people of Middle Eastern descent are less intelligent than people of European descent? … > [@Intellectually, What Does Islam Offer The West?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectually-what-does-islam-offer-the-west/724949/102): > > you can continue to deny reality until you’re decapitated on the streets of london. But in the end, you’ll see the truth. > [@Intellectually, What Does Islam Offer The West?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectually-what-does-islam-offer-the-west/724949/100): > > The trouble is that you beg the question by defining any site that posts facts on Islam as anti-islamic, because **Islam is the religion of a pedophile and false prophet.** But see the BBC survey posted above indicating that 27% (\>600,000) British Muslims sympathize with the Charlie Hebdo terrorists. That’s 600,000 perfect candidates for deportation. > [@Coontown on Reddit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coontown-on-reddit/725264/130): > > …Agree completely. Marxists are an existential threat to our well being and way of life. **Every single one of them should be lined up against the wall and shot,** because that’s exactly what they’d do to us if they got into power. Might makes right, and we should crush our enemies before they do the same. > [@Intellectually, What Does Islam Offer The West?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectually-what-does-islam-offer-the-west/724949/88): > > This is an anti-science viewpoint promoted by delusional ideologues who are not in correspondence with reality. It compares to climate change denial and creationism in its blind ignorance of evidence in favor of an unsubstantiated belief. > > [FACT](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31293196): 1 in 4 British Muslims sympathize with the Charlie Hebdo terrorists. > > [FACT](http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/23/nationwide-poll-of-us-muslims-shows-thousands-support-shariah-jihad/): 1 in 2 American Muslims want to be governed by Shariah law. > > [FACT](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/): 4 in 5 Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam. > > [FACT](http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/23/nationwide-poll-of-us-muslims-shows-thousands-support-shariah-jihad/): 1 in 4 American Muslims believe it is legitimate to use violence against depictions of the [prophet Muhammad](http://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/7/75/Mohammad.jpg/200px-Mohammad.jpg). > > [FACT](http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/23/nationwide-poll-of-us-muslims-shows-thousands-support-shariah-jihad/): 1 in 5 American Muslims believe that the use of violence is justified in order to enact Shariah law in this country. > > They are your friends. Your coworkers. Your neighbors. And one in four would be perfectly happy stoning you to death for exercising your free speech rights. Islam is a cancer upon this Earth and an existential threat to the West. **Thankfully, it will be bourgeois degenerates like yourself who are the first to go, giving all real Americans carte blanche to defend our culture and way of life.** > [@Intellectually, What Does Islam Offer The West?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/intellectually-what-does-islam-offer-the-west/724949/85): > > Commenting on the ‘beauty’ of a cherrypicked part of the Islamic world ignores the **inextricably related barbarity and depravity that invariably accompanies Islamic aesthetics.** > [@DRUG FUELED FANTASY #1 about the eurocrisis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/drug-fueled-fantasy-1-about-the-eurocrisis/727031/2): > > My ideal Greek solution would be a German-led military coalition that conquers the country and brutally reforms and liberalizes the economy. > [@Help gun nuts describe their views](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-gun-nuts-describe-their-views/726873/12): > > God bless the USA. > > You can pry my dozens of firearms and thousands of rounds of ammo from my cold, dead hands, except liberals are too cowardly and weak to do so. So keep whining and moping around on the internet, because you will never succeed. > > Gun grabbers have lost legislatively, you’ve lost in the courts, you’ve lost in the court of public opinion, and you’ve obviously lost in any physical confrontation. Your efforts are absolutely futile, and you will never live in an America with fewer firearms than we have today. You have utterly failed at your objectives in every possible way. > > Molon Labe. > [@Why is there an immigration problem in Calais?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-there-an-immigration-problem-in-calais/726476/53): > > Just to clarify: so you’re saying that \*\*diversity is harmful, segregation is preferable, and homogenous ethnostates are the ideal polities? > > I agree completely.\*\* > > If putting different ethnic groups in proximity caused the Middle East’s crisis, how is embedding extremely alien Middle Easterners in European society possible a good idea? > [@Should I get an eyebrow peircing?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-i-get-an-eyebrow-peircing/725959/30): > > Get a haircut, wash your face more often (to get rid of acne), shave off your hobo beard, turn your baseball cap around, throw away your Magic the Gathering cards, and **stop fetishizing degenerate American black youth culture.** If you get a facial piercing, I hope you understand that you will not be able to find respectable employment. > [@Sandra Bland video](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/103): > > So let’s see what happened here: > > A criminal who was incapable of driving properly was duly pulled over by law enforcement. She immediately assumed a combative and uncooperative attitude towards the officer, refusing direct lawful orders and resisting arrest. In a testament to the professionalism and competence of American law enforcement, she was arrested without harm to herself or others. > > Like many leftists, she suffered from mental illness. She consequently committed suicide in her cell, possibly correctly predicting that her death would continue the progressive narrative of a surge in law enforcement violence (when actual facts indicate that police brutality is at an all time low). The video of her cell, the autopsy report, and the scarcity of lynchings in the last five decades all support the obvious conclusion of suicide. (this one got a mod note) > [@'Yes Means Yes' is the Law for Sex on New York College Campuses](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yes-means-yes-is-the-law-for-sex-on-new-york-college-campuses/725483/21): > > **Her husband is probably a latent homosexual and their behavior is deviant and unhealthy.** The real problem lies not with people who act on their impulses but rather with media and advertisers who create a sexualized society wherein people need to partake in abnormal sexual activity to feel arousal. > [@Guns: Newsweek proposes a compromise](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guns-newsweek-proposes-a-compromise/725345/7): > > We’ve been compromising on our gun rights for centuries. Every time, we ‘split the difference’ and institute more gun control, and then progressives return a few years later to repeat the process. \*\*No, you hoplophobic gun grabbing liberal, you cannot take any more of our rights. > > The author of this article can enjoy getting forced by comrade Stalin into the gulags after he disarms the populace and some other lefty figures out that rent-seeking journalists at failed media publications like The Daily Beast are the real bourgeoisie.\*\* I, like the rest of right-wing America, will continue to stockpile ammunition and firearms. Don’t like it? Molon Labe. > [@Should private businesses be allowed to discriminate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-private-businesses-be-allowed-to-discriminate/724529/9): > > \*\*I wouldn’t worry about that. Gay people already cost straight people about 100K (per gay person) in lifetime HIV costs. And thanks to Obamacare, those costs are born by the population at large—that is, straight people… > > > [@Should private businesses be allowed to discriminate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-private-businesses-be-allowed-to-discriminate/724529/8): > > > > Payback’s a bitch, isn’t it? > > Of course, you don’t seem concerned about the persecution that lead up to it. > > Sure it is. But the fight isn’t over. In fact, it’s hardly even begun.\*\* > [@Why is executing someone painlessly difficult?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-executing-someone-painlessly-difficult/723932/34): > > The problem is one of progressive’s own creation; **bleeding heart liberals who are desperate to save criminal scum make mountains out of every molehill in the execution process.** The reason the government can’t use the safe and effective drugs veterinarians use to put down animals is because public pressure campaigns instituted against manufacturers of those drugs (of course, by death penalty opponents) have prevented those drugs from being sold to governments that use the death penalty. This then forces the government to use marginally less effective drugs, and of course progressives are happy to complain about a problem that they themselves created. > > The real issue is that the debate is on false pretenses. Criminals didn’t give their victims painless deaths, and so the state has no obligation to do so either. But the debate has been co-opted by one side who argue about whether the drugs are perfectly painless, when we really should be discussing whether murderers and traitors deserve comfortable deaths at all. (this thread was even in GQ at the time) > [@Turkish Membership of the EU, outline the positives](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turkish-membership-of-the-eu-outline-the-positives/723402/3): > > Yeah, giving tens of millions of people whose only relation to Europe is a tiny toehold conquered via warfare and who aren’t part of the European cultural tradition free and permanent access to Europe is surely a good idea. Diversity is our strength and everyone knows the concepts that comprise the Western way of life, such as freedom of religion, non-violence and constitutional republics, are very important to Muslims. > > The Muslims may have been stopped at the border of France and then at the gates of Vienna, by the grace of God, the third time will be charm. They have a force more powerful than any army – they have millions of leftists desperate to signal their support for ‘human rights’ and Islam on their side. > > If you don’t agree that Europe needs some cultural enrichment from people who earn 10K/year and whose polity was in near-continuous decline for three centuries, you’re obviously Islamophobic and probably also racist. > > /s This is most of it, though there’s a couple less notable posts I left out. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/9 "2015-08-11T01:07:37Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > [Who says Pinochet wasn’t white?](http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02071/pinochet__2071357b.jpg) Knowledge of Latin America is not his strong suit. Pinochet most certainly did not create a western-style government, he overthrow one, replacing it with a military dictatorship of extraordinary brutality. Then again, Construct appears to be confusing economic arrangements with political ones. Of course, I don’t think Construct is for real so it doesn’t much matter. ETA: I didn’t see Construct’s post above before posting mine. Case closed. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/10 "2015-08-11T01:31:48Z")
The Pit that Pits itself … well done **Construct** ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/11 "2015-08-11T01:35:11Z")
Not just anybody doubles down like that. I’m impressed, albeit appalled. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/12 "2015-08-11T01:53:05Z")
What the hell is wrong with this board’s moderators? Why isn’t he banned? God this board is only good for lulz now. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/13 "2015-08-11T01:53:38Z")
He seems like your bog standard white nationalist, nothing unusual. They don’t tend to be particularly liberal, though I’ve seen a few. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/14 "2015-08-11T02:25:45Z")
Dammit, this is what I get for being so amused by hi post. Everyone wants to take away my fun. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/15 "2015-08-11T03:03:54Z")
[Quote=Construct] You’re incompetent and this is a bad pitting. I deserve better, so here are some of my more memorable posts (bolding added): [/Quote] [Cousin Vinny] You were _serious_ about that? [/Cousin Vinny] ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/16 "2015-08-11T03:21:30Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > [Cousin Vinny] > > You were _serious_ about that? > > [/Cousin Vinny] I’m thinking, “no”. Where’s the line between trolling and reductio ad absurbum? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/17 "2015-08-11T04:02:54Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > …Of course, I don’t think Construct is for real so it doesn’t much matter… > . Well, his username _is_ “Construct”. I’m guessing he’s a caprophobic bridge-dweller, who’s in it for the evulz. Thus, not worth engaging. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/18 "2015-08-11T04:08:47Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > What the hell is wrong with this board’s moderators? Why isn’t he banned? God this board is only good for lulz now. Poe’s Law. It’s not like this board hasn’t seen a lot of others with similar opinions. Though this thread might provide some more discussion fodder for them… ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/19 "2015-08-11T04:45:45Z")
(I’m not sure if the sequel belongs here, or in the IMHO thread. I’ve posted it to both.) > [@What if Trump wins the 2016 presidential election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-trump-wins-the-2016-presidential-election/727285/70): > > … Zimbabwe probably should abandon Marxism, fly in Chicago school economists, and establish a government based on Lockean principles, they almost certainly won’t. It’s not impossible for non-White societies to create Western style governments, as Pinochet’s Chile and Singapore can attest, but it is very uncommon. And as such, if the US wants to maintain a traditional American government and way of life, we need to maintain traditional American people: Whites. How about blacks, whose ancestors have been in U.S.A. longer than Irish, Italian immigrants, etc.? Or 2nd-generation immigrants from Asian and Hispanic cultures? Or 1st-generation immigrants for that matter who become U.S. citizens? Are they incapable of voting intelligently, or do you just not like how they vote? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501/20 "2015-08-11T05:03:47Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Knowledge of Latin America is not his strong suit. Pinochet most certainly did not create a western-style government, he overthrow one, replacing it with a military dictatorship of extraordinary brutality. Then again, Construct appears to be confusing economic arrangements with political ones. > > Of course, I don’t think Construct is for real so it doesn’t much matter. Yes. But Pinochet is a go-to paradigm for Hyperlibertarians to point to as a real-world paradigm. Other examples proposed include (1) U.S.A. before FedRes, SEC, EPA, SocSec etc., i.e. 1920’s-era America; (2) Somalia(!), (3) medieval Ireland(!!). (Nevermind whether the troll would present as HyperLib if probed. This post isn’t about him.) IOW, who else they got? The opportunities for new economo-political systems arose at the Soviet Fall, but Russia finished with a thugocracy. _The Adventure in Iraq was undertaken by many as a demonstration by the NeoRepublicans – they would nurture a prosperous and vibrant new democracy_, (which would then gratefully return much of its oil revenue to its liberators). With the Adventure failing, the Hyperlibs are stuck with … with what? Pinochet’s Chile is the best to be conjured up!?! Appropriate since the Hyperlibs are about nothing if it isn’t Property Rights, _and such rights do dictate armed forces adequate to protect property owners_. (In fairness to HyperLibs: Although GWB hired young Republicans to administer Iraq who were demented enough to fall for the italicized clause, most toilet-trained Libs are smart enough to reject the whole Adventure against Gog and Magog in Iraq.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/construct-are-you-for-real/727501.md?page=2)