# CONTEST: Electoral Results.  With prizes!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 1, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403 "2016-11-01T21:33:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/1 "2016-11-01T21:33:54Z")

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OK, fellow babies. I know we have a few threads in our beloved Elections forum about predicting the outcome of the upcoming end-of-the-unpleasantness. I figured one more won’t hurt.

**First one to predict these four things:**

Hillary’s Electoral Vote Count  
Trump’s Electoral Vote Count  
Senate Split  
Third Party Vote Percentage, expressed in tenths of a percent

Players may only make one prediction. So don’t think you can make a prediction each day. Choose your prediction and timing wisely.

**The prizes:**

I will provide the top two winners with these custom titles:

First Place: 2016 Election-from-Heck Winner!  
Second Place: 2016 Election-from-Heck Runner Up

The custom titles will be paid for one year. After that you’re on your own.

**Scoring:**

Players will score points for:

Each Electoral Vote they are off on both parties shall score one point.  
Each Senate Seat they are off on both parties shall score one point.  
Each tenth of a point in Third Party Vote Percentage shall score one point.

Lowest score - that predicts all four categories - shall be declared the winner.

**Tiebreaker:**

In the even two or more players are tied after the above, this metric shall be used as a tiebreaker:

Evan McMullin’s Vote Percentage in Utah. In the event two players choose the same percentage, the one who posted their guess first shall win the tie.

**Volunteers Needed:**

This will largely be self-policing. However, my day job will be crazy in the days following the election. If any kind volunteer wants to help me score the winner on November 9 - presuming we know the outcome - I would appreciate their time and effort.

**Commentary:**

I truly enjoy moderating the Elections forum. Even in these crazed times, it’s fun to have a place to go where people can geek out about methods, procedures and suchlike in the election process. I hope you all enjoy it as much as I do.

Good luck to everyone. Let the games begin.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/2 "2016-11-01T22:36:35Z")

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When’s the absolute latest that someone can cast a vote? 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time on November 7th?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/3 "2016-11-01T22:38:16Z")

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Do we predict everything, or do we just choose one thing?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/4 "2016-11-01T22:40:05Z")

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Predictions until Election Day. But remember, a tie can work against you if you’re late.

You must predict all four items plus the tiebreaker to win.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/5 "2016-11-01T23:16:09Z")

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Is the “third party voting %” just a total non-major-party share, or are we supposed to give separate predictions for Johnson, Stein, and McMullin?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/6 "2016-11-01T23:23:00Z")

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Total Third Party. So percentage of votes not going to Hillary or Trump. Seems simpler that way.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/7 "2016-11-02T00:21:59Z")

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First off, I want to say bravo for this idea. Turn this into a bit of fun, to help with the stress.

And I will go ahead and pull the PEC prediction:

Clinton 317  
Trump 221  
Senate 50/50  
Third Party: 8.2%

Unfortunately, no one seems to be doing a good third party combined, so I looked at last year. It seemed total the actual candidates, with undecided completely absent. So I just added up Johnson and Other from the PEC source (HuffPo Pollster), since [the downward trend seems to be leveling out](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/8 "2016-11-02T00:44:13Z")

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To clarify: Your post leads off with “first one to predict all of these things”, but then talks about scoring based on how far off we are. If I predict them all correctly, but totally flub McMillan’s Utah vote, and then someone else gives the same prediction as me, but nails McMillan, which of us wins?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/9 "2016-11-02T00:56:42Z")

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n/m

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/10 "2016-11-02T01:28:53Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> To clarify: Your post leads off with “first one to predict all of these things”, but then talks about scoring based on how far off we are. If I predict them all correctly, but totally flub McMillan’s Utah vote, and then someone else gives the same prediction as me, but nails McMillan, which of us wins?

Apologies.

I decided on the scoring system instead and edited an existing post. The points system is the play.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/11 "2016-11-02T03:07:16Z")

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**Hillary’s Electoral Vote Count 347  
Trump’s Electoral Vote Count 191  
Senate Split 52 Democratic, 48 Republican  
Third Party Vote Percentage, expressed in tenths of a percent 6.1%**

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/12 "2016-11-02T06:18:34Z")

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Clinton 338  
Trump 200  
Senate - agree with **Velocity** 52 dems/48 reps  
Third Party (Dr. Kevin Philps Bong) 7.4%

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/13 "2016-11-02T06:41:49Z")

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Hillary’s Electoral Vote Count 347  
Trump’s Electoral Vote Count 191  
Senate Split Right down the middle 50/50  
Third Party Vote Percentage, expressed in tenths of a percent 4.8%

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/14 "2016-11-02T12:20:42Z")

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Hillary’s EV: 358  
Trump’s EV: 180  
Senate: 52 for Democrats, 48 Republicans  
3rd party: 4.9%

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/15 "2016-11-02T13:17:06Z")

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Hillary’s EV count: 288  
Donald’s EV Count: 250  
Senate: 51 D, 49 R  
3rd party: 6.2%

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/16 "2016-11-02T13:18:09Z")

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I propose just one tiebreaker: who was first. It’s a lot bolder to predict a result now than the day before.

Here’s mine:

Hillary’s Electoral Vote Count-279  
Trump’s Electoral Vote Count-253  
Senate Split-51-49 Democrats  
Third Party Vote Percentage, expressed in tenths of a percent-4.7%

McMullin in Utah-35%

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/17 "2016-11-02T13:21:43Z")

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Oops, forgot McMuffin in Utah: 33%

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/18 "2016-11-02T13:28:35Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Hillary’s Electoral Vote Count-279  
> Trump’s Electoral Vote Count-253  
> Senate Split-51-49 Democrats  
> Third Party Vote Percentage, expressed in tenths of a percent-4.7%
> 
> McMullin in Utah-35%

Our first prediction of McMullin carrying Utah. Cool.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/19 "2016-11-02T13:30:49Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Our first prediction of McMullin carrying Utah. Cool.

It’s pronounced McMuffin.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contest-electoral-results-with-prizes/770403/20 "2016-11-02T13:32:26Z")

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Clinton 347  
Trump 191  
Senate 50/50  
Third parties 8.3%

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