# Contra Matrimonium

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contra-matrimonium/275704>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 19, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contra-matrimonium/275704 "2004-11-19T19:35:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contra-matrimonium/275704/21 "2004-11-22T15:31:19Z")

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Whose relatives? Yours or hers?

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contra-matrimonium/275704/22 "2004-11-22T15:53:58Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> Since you questioned, I’m enjoying uninterrapted connubial bliss, thank you very much. But it has nothing to do with an act of marriage, we simply love each other. And if you think my denigration of marriage is an exception, just check the divorce statistics.

So, in other words, you’re happily married, but it has nothing to do with marriage. Also, you back up your denigration of marriage with divorce statistics, which indicates that you believe that people that get divorced share your view on marriage. You, however, are not divorced. I’m so confused.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contra-matrimonium/275704/23 "2004-11-22T17:12:57Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> …I don’t see why deluded gay folks shouldn’t have the right to be as miserable as deluded straight folks, or any defense for making such a discrimination.

By all means and most certainly, no discrimination. I’m only trying to sound a word of warning.

Not every “right” is necessarily a blessing. Take education, for instance. Broken down to everyday realities, it’s endless hard work, often torture, enormous stress, nervous breakdowns galore, and when you through with it, there is no guarantee of easy success: you still might end up selling insurance or real estate.

Likewise, marriage is not necessarily a blessing. If gays ever represented something to me, it was Freedom, extremely queer (pun intended) form of it, but true Freedom nonetheless. Why would anyone want to forsake Freedom and assume a yoke? I’m all in favor of free cohabitation (lifelong is best in most cases, imo), and if you want to raise a child, get a parenting license.

All this talk about gay marriage served only to incite religious cooks. Now they are talking about better protection of marriage, enshrined in Constitution and augmented by tax laws… [Just look at all this mess!](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=7&u=/ap/20041121/ap_on_re_us/protecting_marriage_1)

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contra-matrimonium/275704/24 "2004-11-22T20:30:28Z")

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> [@Rufus Xavier](#):
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> …you back up your denigration of marriage with divorce statistics, which indicates that you believe that people that get divorced share your view on marriage

Not at all. I think that divorce statistical numbers show that marriage is not always a happy institution. People behind the statistics are most likely confused and seriously hurt.

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