# Contractor Dopers:  Fisher proposal to build border wall:  Is this \*technically\* feasible?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261>\
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**Created:** [April 9, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261 "2019-04-09T03:54:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/41 "2019-04-10T20:57:34Z")

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Gee, now I’m hurt.

My husband spent 20 years in the Army, a portion of which he was a recruiter. My father retired after 20 years in the Air Force. And my grandfather…nevermind.

You haven’t really accepted anything I’ve said about the engineering stuff. So my 2 cents’ worth about Reservists being activated repeatedly, or even how military units are renumbered so they can be deployed more often is useless information. And family members having to apply for food stamps is irrelevant.

My favorite lie is “but the military moves you for free!”

Good luck with your wall.  
~VOW

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/42 "2019-04-10T21:41:55Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Just wait until the contractor gets to the Tohono O’odham reservation in Arizona and its 60+ mile long border with Mexico, with members of the nation on both sides of the border. Maybe the Federal government will eventually wrestle a border closing in that land, but how hard will a private contractor fight against [tribal sovereignty](https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall/story/tohono-oodham-nation-arizona-tribe/582487001/)?

Well, the great Father in the Whitehouse has lied to indigenous peoples before. The treaties are probably already printed up.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/43 "2019-04-10T22:32:08Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> And just yesterday, the Pentagon awarded nearly $1 billion in contracts to build sections of a border wall. The estimated completion date is October 1, 2020. Clearly it doesn’t take years to start moving out on these sorts of projects.
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> [\> U.S. Department of Defense \> Contract](https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract-View/Article/1809986/)

Just in time for Election Day.

I think a fun October Surprise would be for a photo opportunity to go down, and the “wall” tips over and squashes Pence, McConnell, and the America-hating fuckstick like the verminous bugs they are.

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**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/44 "2019-04-10T22:35:17Z")

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**kaylasdad99** , I love you.  
~VOW

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/45 "2019-04-10T22:35:25Z")

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> [@VOW](#):
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> TRUMP is the one who said Mexico would pay for the wall.
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> Mexico said, “No.”
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> I gotta read all these articles. Saying the military will build a wall and saying the Army Corps of Engineers will build the wall are two DIFFERENT things.
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> The US Army does indeed have Engineers. Construction engineers build things. Combat engineers blow thing up.
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> The Army Corps of Engineers is NOT a military entity. They get involved with water stuff. Rivers, levies, flood control channels…
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> I’m gonna Google the origins of the Army Corps of Engineers.
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> (Trivia time! Anybody know why the Engineers are symbolized by castles?)

WAG: Siege **Engines**?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/46 "2019-04-10T22:37:22Z")

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> [@rbroome](#):
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> I don’t know the current status, but one amusing wall story is that while the Feds can and have used imminent domain to seize property for the border wall, there is a Catholic church (used about once per year for a special celebration) very close to the border that is right in the way. There are special protections given to churches to keep the evil Feds away from those locations. And Trump in particular does not want to hurt his standing with the religious right. But the church is in the way…  
> Up until recently, they have simply chosen to ignore the problem.

_Eminent_.

“_Eminent_ domain.”

That is all.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/47 "2019-04-10T22:39:30Z")

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> [@rbroome](#):
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> I don’t know the current status, but one amusing wall story is that while the Feds can and have used imminent domain to seize property for the border wall, there is a **Catholic** church (used about once per year for a special celebration) very close to the border that is right in the way. There are special protections given to churches to keep the evil Feds away from those locations. And Trump in particular does not want to hurt his standing with the religious right. But the church is in the way…  
> Up until recently, they have simply chosen to ignore the problem.

**Ahem**. Think his base is going to give a shit?

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**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/48 "2019-04-10T22:40:12Z")

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**kaylasdad99** , you win!

[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege\_engine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_engine)

I always thought it funny that the engines were to attack castles, but symbol for engineers was a castle.

And of course, most people think “engineer” and think of someone driving a train, or someone hunched over a drafting table.  
~VOW

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/49 "2019-04-11T14:12:13Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Just in time for Election Day.

That right there is about 50% of the reason that I think the project will be delivered on time. The other 50% is that it seems pretty feasible to do so.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contractor-dopers-fisher-proposal-to-build-border-wall-is-this-technically-feasible/832261/50 "2019-04-11T14:16:16Z")

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> [@VOW](#):
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> So my 2 cents’ worth about Reservists being activated repeatedly, or even how military units are renumbered so they can be deployed more often is useless information. And family members having to apply for food stamps is irrelevant.

It is irrelevant, because it has literally nothing to do with what we were talking about. It’s the dictionary definition of irrelevant.

> [@](#):
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> Good luck with your wall.

I have a much longer record than you in saying that the wall is a completely useless vanity project that is inspired by naked racism, and also that it ought to be illegal to steal military funds to build it. That doesn’t mean, however, that it’s impossible to replace 50-something miles of fence and add some little stumps in the ground known as “vehicle barriers” over course of the next 16 months because “hydrology” or “permits” or whatever nonsense you’re arguing.

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