# Contradictory Stories Within Bands?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 8, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459 "2022-01-08T22:37:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/1 "2022-01-08T22:37:14Z")

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I tend to notice stories slowly changing after going on a site like [newspapers.com](http://newspapers.com) and work chronologically to see how they shift a story where they were the main character.

Jagger and [Ronnie Wood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Wood) insist that “Miss You” wasn’t conceived as a [disco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco) song, while Richards said, “‘Miss You’ was a damn good disco record; it was calculated to be one.” In any case, what was going on in [discotheques](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightclub) did make it to the recording. [Charlie Watts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Watts) said, “A lot of those songs like ‘Miss You’ on ‘Some Girls’ … were heavily influenced by going to the discos. You can hear it in a lot of those [four-to-the-floor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_on_the_floor_(music)) and the Philadelphia-style drumming.”

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/2 "2022-01-08T22:43:52Z")

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The second paragraph is taken word for word from the Wiki article on [“Miss You”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_You_(Rolling_Stones_song)) without credit. There is nothing in the article to suggest that the comments were made over time and no footnotes to that section. So we have no context in which to place any of the quotes.

How about going back to [newspapers.com](http://newspapers.com) and citing the actual articles in chronological order?

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/3 "2022-01-08T22:44:11Z")

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I’m amazed rock musicians from the 1970s can even remember who they were married to at the time.

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/4 "2022-01-08T22:51:11Z")

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My free trial is over… I read the second paragraph from here, and it wasn’t refuted.

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/5 "2022-01-08T23:24:22Z")

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News flash: different people can have differing memories of the same event.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/6 "2022-01-08T23:33:14Z")

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The statements in the OP are not necessarily contradictory. Saying something was “calculated” to be a disco song does not mean it was written from the get-go to be one.

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**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/7 "2022-01-09T00:25:11Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> I’m amazed rock musicians from the 1970s can even remember who they were married to at the time.

David Bowie reminisced (or not) that there are several records he had no recollection of making, due to rampant drug use. And he’s far, far from the only one, even high up the popular music food chain.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/8 "2022-01-09T00:44:19Z")

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> [@Toxylon](#):
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> David Bowie reminisced (or not) that there are several records he had no recollection of making, due to rampant drug use.

On the literary side, Stephen King hardly remembers writing _Cujo_ for the same reason.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/9 "2022-01-09T00:49:28Z")

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[Moderating]

If you’re going to quote from Wikipedia, or other sources online, make sure to cite your references.

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/10 "2022-01-09T15:21:57Z")

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in The Band, Levon Helm and Robbie Robertson argue about songwriting credits… Levon felt he wasn’t given enough credit.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/11 "2022-01-09T19:33:15Z")

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> [@Toxylon](#):
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> David Bowie reminisced (or not) that there are several records he had no recollection of making, due to rampant drug use. And he’s far, far from the only one, even high up the popular music food chain.

“Station To Station” being one of those albums, which is one of my favorite Bowie albums.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/12 "2022-01-09T19:37:54Z")

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Pete Townshend has given conflicting accounts about his song “Rough Boys” over the years. As per [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_Boys):

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> During a 1989 interview with [Timothy White](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_White_(editor)), Townshend made reference to the song “Rough Boys”, calling the song a “coming out, an acknowledgment of the fact that I’d had a gay life, and that I understood what gay sex was about. I know how it feels to be a woman because I am a woman.”[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_Boys#cite_note-3) Five years later, in an interview with _[Playboy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy)_ , he said, “I did an interview about it, saying that ‘Rough Boys’ was about being gay, and in the interview I also talked about my ‘gay life,’ which—I meant—was actually about the friends I’ve had who are gay. So the interviewer kind of dotted the t’s and crossed the i’s and assumed that this was a coming out, which it wasn’t at all.”

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/13 "2022-01-09T22:46:37Z")

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Like the ending of that Tom Hanks movie… (d&r)

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/contradictory-stories-within-bands/957459/14 "2022-01-10T17:18:06Z")

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Mine, too, despite “the side effects of the cocaine”
