# Controversial Culinary Comments **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 2, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328 "2018-10-02T18:49:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/141 "2018-10-03T22:07:22Z")
Has anyone tried cotton candy grapes? It confuses the brain. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/142 "2018-10-03T22:14:16Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Has anyone tried cotton candy grapes? It confuses the brain. OK, I know I can google it, but surely I’m not the only person wondering… what is that? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/143 "2018-10-03T22:22:42Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > OK, I know I can google it, but surely I’m not the only person wondering… what is that? Green seedless grapes that taste extra sweet, maybe a bit like Cotton candy. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/144 "2018-10-03T22:28:24Z")
Okra should be banned. No amount of other Southern cooking can make up for the slime that is okra. Blech! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/145 "2018-10-03T22:30:43Z")
> [@swampspruce](#): > > Okra should be banned. No amount of other Southern cooking can make up for the slime that is okra. Blech! The thread is _controversial_ culinary comments! 🙂 (I love okra, though. It need not be slimy.) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/146 "2018-10-03T22:37:17Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Green seedless grapes that taste extra sweet, maybe a bit like Cotton candy. They taste just like cotton candy. My blood sugar rose from eating two. Weirdest thing to taste a fruit that tastes like spun sugar. My taste buds didn’t know what to do and my brain was freaked out. P.S. okra has to be cooked properly to taste good, I don’t like the slime either. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/147 "2018-10-03T22:42:12Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > They taste just like cotton candy. My blood sugar rose from eating two. Weirdest thing to taste a fruit that tastes like spun sugar. My taste buds didn’t know what to do and my brain was freaked out. I’m curious now. Where does one find these grapes? Is this just something that is usually sold in groceries or elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/148 "2018-10-03T22:45:23Z")
I don’t care for sweets at all. No peaches for me. The fuzzy skin squicks me out. Just thinking about it can give me goosebumps and make my hairs stand on end. 5ouching some types of foam rubber does it, too. I don’t love steak or other large cuts of beef. It’s ok but I’d rather have pork chops or salmon. Corned beef is the exception. Frequently, I’ll eat the same lunch at work all week. Maybe grill up five brats or toss a turkey breast on the smoker. Some coworkers inform me this practice is weird. > [@MikeG](#): > > Lifelong Chicagoan and I put ketchup on hot dogs. I’ll give you till 8 tonight to get your affairs in order. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/149 "2018-10-03T22:54:01Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I’m curious now. Where does one find these grapes? Is this just something that is usually sold in groceries or elsewhere? They have them in Ralphs, so pretty common. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/150 "2018-10-03T23:10:21Z")
I’ll lead with strength: **Authenticity is somewhere between fraudulent and irrelevant.** Culture always changes over time and distance, and trying to stake it down, put it under glass, or flash-freeze it to preserve a single “authentic” style of food is ahistorical and dismissive of how the culture evolved in the first place. Besides, in a world where authentic classic Italian cuisine includes tomatoes, well, the time horizon for this whole “authenticity” thing is apparently laughably short. Similarly, fusion cuisines and the cuisines of diasporic cultures are in no way lesser than the supposedly “authentic” cuisines of the people back in the Old Country. Thick crust pizza is wonderful. Yes, yes, cracker crust is authentic, but, well, see above. Coffee is best when it’s lukewarm. To restate: If your coffee is only drinkable when it’s so hot or so cold you’ve deadened your tastebuds to the point you can barely taste it, it’s shit coffee, and I don’t mean _kopi luwak_. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/151 "2018-10-03T23:14:00Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > Fish is awful smelling, even if it’s “fresh.” It reeks, and the taste isn’t much better. Them’s fighting words! You’ve clearly never eaten fish fresh off the boat. > [@RealityChuck](#): > > I’ve never seen any improvement by letting meat rest before you eat it, other then the fact it’s not hot. There is no difference in how juicy they are. You’re doing it wrong. 🙂 And you’re missing the point of resting the meat, which is to let the juices flow back from the centre to the rest of the meat. Try resting the covered meat in a warm place. I place mine on a plate over a pan of hot water. Anyway, my controversial comment is that fillet of beef is not the tastiest cut. ---
**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/152 "2018-10-03T23:40:08Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Hot dogs are vile. Putting one in a soggy tasteless spongy white bun with bright yellow mustard and super sweet pickle relish makes them much viler. Well, dear, you’ve got to try them with nothing but ketchup. Just ask our pal Cecil! 😉 > [@snowthx](#): > > . . . Down With The Whiteness! 😃 Would that include SNOW? 😃 Okay, mine: 1. _Gourmet Hamburger_ is an oxymoron. There used to be a commercial for A1 steak sauce in which the star would ask, “What is hamburger? Chopped ham? No! It’s chopped steak! So pour A1…” Ah, but why is it chopped? Because it’s not good enough to serve as steak. The stuff that’s good enough to serve as steak is set aside and sold as STEAK! 1. In & Out, Five Guys, Fuddruckers, Angus Brand…those guys are exploiting a burger fad that is nothing but Astroturf – the beef industry trying to make up for revenue that was lost to the Mad Cow Disease hysteria – and they’re still just slinging greasy discs of garbage. There are good burgers. There are good burger restaurants. You won’t be assigned a number at a **good** burger restaurant. –G! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/153 "2018-10-04T00:03:59Z")
> [@Grestarian](#): > > the beef industry trying to make up for revenue that was lost to the Mad Cow Disease hysteria Was this even an issue in the US? I don’t know a single person who gave a damn or avoided ground beef because of bovine spongiform encephalopathy. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/154 "2018-10-04T00:20:02Z")
> [@Grestarian](#): > > Well, dear, you’ve got to try them with nothing but ketchup. Just ask our pal Cecil! 😉 > Would that include SNOW? 😃 > > Okay, mine: > > 1. _Gourmet Hamburger_ is an oxymoron. There used to be a commercial for A1 steak sauce in which the star would ask, “What is hamburger? Chopped ham? No! It’s chopped steak! So pour A1…” > > Ah, but why is it chopped? Because it’s not good enough to serve as steak. The stuff that’s good enough to serve as steak is set aside and sold as STEAK! > > 1. In & Out, Five Guys, Fuddruckers, Angus Brand…those guys are exploiting a burger fad that is nothing but Astroturf – the beef industry trying to make up for revenue that was lost to the Mad Cow Disease hysteria – and they’re still just slinging greasy discs of garbage. > > There are good burgers. There are good burger restaurants. You won’t be assigned a number at a **good** burger restaurant. > > –G! 1. wrong about the ketchup and hotdogs. Nothing can make them edible but some things make them even less edible. 2. agree about hamburgers. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/155 "2018-10-04T00:22:30Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Coffee is best when it’s lukewarm. To restate: If your coffee is only drinkable when it’s so hot or so cold you’ve deadened your tastebuds to the point you can barely taste it, it’s shit coffee, and I don’t mean _kopi luwak_. This is where you’re wrong. Hot foods and drinks should be served as hot as possible, and cold foods and drinks should be enjoyed as cold as possible. I used to know a woman who let her milkshakes sit until they were thin, lukewarm and gross. But also, my wife likes “cask temperature” beer, which is another travesty. I prefer hot coffee, and I’ll drink iced coffee on a hot summer day, but lukewarm coffee is a disappointing waste, no matter how delicious it started out. Even the best gourmet dinner is ruined if it cools off too much (thank Og for microwaves). I’m not a huge wine fan, but that’s a slight exception. I prefer it cold, but room temperature is at least drinkable, unlike almost everything else. Plain water, too, falls in the same category. Liquor, also, I guess, though I sip my whisky with ice and usually shoot back everything else so as not to taste it. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/156 "2018-10-04T00:24:00Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > there is nothing Iceberg can do that Romaine can’t do 100 times better tasting and 1000 times more nutritious. iceberg makes a great low calorie snack. It’s like crunchy water! Romaine does not. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/157 "2018-10-04T00:29:37Z")
Okay, here’s the big one. Desserts. Pretty much all of them. They are mouth entertainment when you are already full and don’t need to eat anything. I eat them only as a social thing because everyone else seems to get so much out of the experience and I am a sucker that way. When I am alone I never eat them nor miss them. I maybe have a piece of good fruit as a palate cleanser and I’m done. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/158 "2018-10-04T00:35:36Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Okay, here’s the big one. Desserts. Pretty much all of them. They are mouth entertainment when you are already full and don’t need to eat anything. I eat them only as a social thing because everyone else seems to get so much out of the experience and I am a sucker that way. > > When I am alone I never eat them nor miss them. I maybe have a piece of good fruit as a palate cleanser and I’m done. Same here. I pretty much never do dessert. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/159 "2018-10-04T00:38:17Z")
> [@amaguri](#): > > Man I don’t know if this was said in jest but it couldn’t be more true for me, I find that I’m buying way less fresh produce because it’s always gross. I don’t know if I’m just not shopping at the right places but I couldn’t find a decent peach at all this year. I’ve heard from other people that this was not a good year for fresh peaches. I got some good nectarines not long ago (and I have to put my cat in the bathroom when I eat them, because she will try to bat them out of my hand! I give her the pit, and she will lick it clean.) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328/160 "2018-10-04T00:46:42Z")
Mushrooms clean up better and are perfectly fine if you rinse and wipe them rather than delicately flicking at tiny specks of growth medium with a twee little plastic brush shaped like a mushroom. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-culinary-comments/822328.md?page=9)