# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2228 "2021-11-23T19:59:43Z")
You’d think, if nothing else, cities and counties would tell their law-enforcement agencies, “Would you knock off shooting every third person you come across? It’s getting expensive paying for your trigger-happiness! Keep it up, and we start cutting your payroll budget and you guys will be watching daytime TV.” ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2229 "2021-11-23T21:13:56Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > It’s getting expensive Speaking of being expensive, I don’t think it’s been mentioned in this thread yet, but Aurora, Colorado will be paying the family of Elijah McClain [$15 million](https://sentinelcolorado.com/news/metro/aurora-to-pay-family-of-elijah-mcclain-record-15-million-to-settle-lawsuit-city-insurance-costs-rocket/) over his wrongful death at the hands of police and paramedics. That’s the largest ever settlement over police misconduct in Colorado. Aurora’s insurance will be covering $10 million, and the city will be paying the rest. Unsurprisingly, the city of Aurora’s insurance premiums have gone up considerably, and will continue to go up. > Next year, insurance premiums for the city are expected to increase by about 35% due to a combination of market trends and an increase in use of force suits filed against the city, bringing the annual total to about $2.3 million, budget analysts told city council members earlier this year. This year, the city’s public liability coverage premium rose about $1.3 million, or 328%, largely because of the city’s current claims, according to city documents. So if I’m interpreting that incredibly clunky way of stating an increase, Aurora’s insurance cost went from about $570,000 to $2.3 million in two years. x + 1300000=3.28x x \approx 570000 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2230 "2021-11-24T17:38:37Z")
Why is it people think being a cop makes one trustworthy? [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maryland-police-officer-accused-of-perjury-misconduct-and-kidnapping-related-to-traffic-stop/ar-AAR3pGX?li=BBnbfcL](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maryland-police-officer-accused-of-perjury-misconduct-and-kidnapping-related-to-traffic-stop/ar-AAR3pGX?li=BBnbfcL) > Dupree is also facing federal conspiracy charges related to a separate case pending in U.S. District Court. He was indicted over the summer alongside five other police officers who are accused of working together to orchestrate false thefts of their own debit cards or vehicles, and then reporting the fake crimes to law enforcement to collect insurance money. > > As of last month, Dupree was still employed by the Fairmount Heights Police Department ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2231 "2021-11-24T19:06:52Z")
Verdict in the trial of the murderers of Arbery. All 3 guilty. > **[As it happened: Three men guilty of murdering black jogger in US - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-59379518)** > > The white men pursued and shot dead Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia in what some called a modern-day lynching. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2232 "2021-11-25T15:16:10Z")
🤨 > **[St. Louis officer gets short sentence in attack on colleague](https://apnews.com/article/crime-st-louis-civil-rights-violations-8ddef593840e6ad1c659430bfc654ed2)** > > A former St. Louis police officer convicted of beating a Black undercover detective during a 2017 racial injustice protest has been sentenced to one year and one day in prison — far more lenient than prosecutors and the victim had hoped for. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2233 "2021-11-25T22:24:07Z")
Its a great way to show the blacks on the force what they are worth. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2234 "2021-11-25T22:24:31Z")
And in total dick news: [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/missouri-governor-pats-himself-on-back-for-mans-exoneration-after-refusing-him-clemency/ar-AAR6sAX?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/missouri-governor-pats-himself-on-back-for-mans-exoneration-after-refusing-him-clemency/ar-AAR6sAX?li=BBnb7Kz) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2235 "2021-11-28T11:19:17Z")
Here’s some more total dick news: > **[Madison police officer resigns after being caught with woman](https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-police-madison-8937f91d041e1e1e7805a063238bde94)** > > MILWAUKEE (AP) — A Wisconsin police lieutenant has resigned after being recorded engaging in sexual activity with a woman in a police car that belonged to the Madison Police Department. The department announced the resignation of Lt. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2236 "2021-11-28T17:35:42Z")
Clearly not the smartest thing the guy ever did, but what about the story makes him a dick? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2237 "2021-11-28T18:36:39Z")
His attempt at sexytime was a dick move eh. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2238 "2021-11-28T19:16:38Z")
And he was allowed to resign. I don’t know about your job, but if I get caught having sex in my cubical, I will get shown the door _immediately._ ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2239 "2021-11-28T19:47:38Z")
So rape, murder and theft is OK if you’re a cop but consensual sex in a squad car is not. That makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2240 "2021-11-28T19:56:50Z")
One of them is embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2241 "2021-11-28T23:29:00Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > So rape, murder and theft is OK if you’re a cop but consensual sex in a squad car is not. Using company resources for personal recreation is unacceptable in any business (sometimes even if your job title begins with a “C”) – those other things are just part of the job (you have to demonstrate that you are above the law). ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2242 "2021-11-29T02:27:48Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > So rape, murder and theft is OK if you’re a cop but consensual sex in a squad car is not. It’s all OK unless someone caught it with a cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2243 "2021-11-29T02:41:47Z")
Jesus H Christ guys!! [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-jersey-police-officer-fatally-struck-nurse-with-vehicle-drove-body-to-his-moms-house-reports/ar-AARdjvf?li=BBnbfcL](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/new-jersey-police-officer-fatally-struck-nurse-with-vehicle-drove-body-to-his-moms-house-reports/ar-AARdjvf?li=BBnbfcL) This sounds like something from a horror movie > Neither Santiago nor Guzman contacted 911 nor tried to assist the victim, the report said. Instead, they traveled away from the scene and back several times before loading Dymka’s body into the Accord and driving the corpse to the home of Santiago’s mother, purportedly to seek advice on how to handle the situation, according to the Post. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2244 "2021-11-29T12:10:37Z")
Hit her with a car? Shall we compare that to having, consensual, sex with her? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2245 "2021-11-29T13:58:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Instead, they traveled away from the scene and back several times before loading Dymka’s body into the Accord “Dude, we have to get out of here” “Bro, we can’t just leave her there” “Shit, shit, shit, let’s just go” “Okay, load her up. Mom will know what to do, remember how well she dealt with dad?” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2246 "2021-11-29T14:34:05Z")
Except Dad is the cop who called the cops on his son cop. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2247 "2021-11-29T15:15:29Z")
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