# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 114
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2268 "2021-12-02T15:45:22Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Also, I’d be curious to see what would happen to a electric wheelchair if it got hit with a surge of electricity. Sounds like something worth checking out. Really makes me miss the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2269 "2021-12-02T16:45:53Z")
Columbus, Ohio: > **[Murder charge for Ohio deputy in Casey Goodson Jr. shooting](https://apnews.com/article/shootings-ohio-columbus-peter-tobin-9ecdbb8a89f93c06a971ab6ae5e86e4c)** > > COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The Ohio sheriff’s deputy who shot Casey Goodson Jr. in the back five times was charged with murder Thursday, as Goodson’s family also filed a federal civil rights lawsuit and the now-retired deputy publicly shared details of... ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2270 "2021-12-02T22:59:56Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Police claim Casey Goodson was driving down the street waving a gun (which he had a license to carry), confronted him as he was unlocking his front door and shot him three times in the back as he refused to drop his ~~sandwich~~ weapon. The suspect later died at the hospital. [https://www.npr.org/2021/12/02/1060932153/the-deputy-who-shot-casey-goodson-jr-5-times-in-the-back-is-charged-with-murder](https://www.npr.org/2021/12/02/1060932153/the-deputy-who-shot-casey-goodson-jr-5-times-in-the-back-is-charged-with-murder) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2271 "2021-12-03T03:50:54Z")
For Fuck’s Sake, do cops get any credible training at all? [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/this-17-year-old-girl-was-having-a-seizure-police-shocked-her-with-a-taser/ar-AARnNkL](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/this-17-year-old-girl-was-having-a-seizure-police-shocked-her-with-a-taser/ar-AARnNkL) This after she had just regained consciousness after a freaking seizure! > A fifth officer arrived – armed with a Taser. _ **He warned her he would use it if she didn’t settle down and behave** _. She cursed at him. He pressed the Taser into her abdomen and pulled the trigger. Her body jerked. She screeched in pain. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2272 "2021-12-03T20:45:17Z")
Denver cop fired for letting a guy bleed to death on the street without trying to get him medical aid. > **[‘Callous’ Cop Fired for Ignoring Dying Gunshot Victim’s Pleas for Help](https://www.thedailybeast.com/dewayne-rodgers-callous-denver-cop-fired-for-ignoring-dying-teens-pleas-for-help)** > > Dewayne Rodgers failed to give 18-year-old Jalonte Jones first aid, even as he lay bleeding on the ground for 10 minutes before his death. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2273 "2021-12-04T00:13:40Z")
…shot a man in Denver…just to watch him die… Officer Cash. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2274 "2021-12-04T00:37:07Z")
From the Greeley Tribune article linked in the Daily Beast piece: > The day Rodgers was fired for his inaction that day in 2020 he was simultaneously fired for not complying with the city’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate, records show. Ah. Got it. If we didn’t know what/who we were dealing with before … ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2275 "2021-12-04T09:41:58Z")
> **[Ex-sheriff, facing life for rapes, pleads guilty to bribery](https://apnews.com/article/crime-louisiana-new-orleans-7efb7aec6b54e82dbc5c7f3cc04bac2a)** > > NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A former Louisiana sheriff pleaded guilty to a federal bribery charge on Wednesday, weeks after a state jury convicted him of sexually abusing boys. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2276 "2021-12-04T15:57:25Z")
False arrest…5700 miles outside their jurisdiction! > **[LAPD Chief Just Became the ‘Ugly American’ in France](https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kbbng/lapd-chief-just-became-the-ugly-american-in-france?utm_medium=social&utm_source=vice_facebook&fbclid=IwAR2UgIBRal_5wrdyz5rzMuZZkcmEuybdQQyv5nO0fPwy8oVGSmeMEcb2osY)** > > Two Los Angeles police officers made a wrongful arrest about 5,700 miles outside their jurisdiction. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2277 "2021-12-04T16:07:29Z")
> It happened in Marseille, where LAPD Chief Michel Moore and Assistant Chief Robert Marino were walking the streets after dinner with their wives, along with two LAPD officers as security detail. _Security detail_? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2278 "2021-12-04T17:56:38Z")
The sheriff we fired a few years back, Arpaio, had a security detail because (he said) a lot of the people he’d thrown in jail as America’s Toughest Sheriff™ wanted to kill him. The only plot that showed up was a [phony one](https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/a-phony-murder-plot-against-joe-arpaio-winds-up-costing-taxpayers-11-million-6629798) cooked up by deputies who even bought the parts for a bomb and delivered them to the man they accused. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2279 "2021-12-05T02:43:19Z")
A followup to the LAPD chief is the case of the chief of police of Loving, New Mexico, who not only tried to arrest a guy in Carlsbad, not in his jurisdiction, but also tased him. The chief has a long history of bad interactions with the public. > **[Police Chief Charged With Going Rogue Has a Very Ugly Past](https://www.thedailybeast.com/loving-new-mexico-police-chief-frank-methola-charged-with-going-rogue-has-a-very-ugly-past)** > > People unlucky enough to have had run-ins with Frank Methola cannot believe he still has a badge. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2021, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2280 "2021-12-05T12:49:48Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > _Security detail_ ? It’s how you reward the rank and file - free trip to France. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2281 "2021-12-06T14:02:16Z")
The LAPD Chief and Assistant Chief were in Marseille on official business. Apparently, the officers who stopped the man were also there on official business. They were also walking with local police. In some ways, that makes the incident stranger, but in other ways it helps explain it. They didn’t just randomly arrest somebody while on vacation, they were ‘on duty’ in some capacity, so when one of the people in their party accused a passerby of theft, it actually makes sense they would leap into action. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2282 "2021-12-06T14:36:03Z")
No it doesn’t. It makes sense the French police officers leap into action. The Americans should sit the fuck down. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2283 "2021-12-07T21:30:43Z")
[https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2021/12/07/arizona-officers-pepper-sprayed-mentally-ill-prisoner-40-times/6412282001/](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2021/12/07/arizona-officers-pepper-sprayed-mentally-ill-prisoner-40-times/6412282001/) I think this might be paywalled, the poor man was pepper sprayed at least 40 times while locked in a cell. "Day after day, after day, Rahim Muhammad slammed his head into the prison cell door. Incarcerated at the Eyman state prison in Florence and diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder, Muhammad heard voices that told him to harm himself. But instead of providing counseling or a mental health treatment plan to stop the self-harming behavior, Arizona prison staff repeatedly gassed Muhammad with pepper spray — day after day. " ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2284 "2021-12-10T02:47:41Z")
A Kentucky county sheriff, who was also a girls’ assistant basketball coach, has been arrested by his own officers for punching a girl in the face during a basketball game. > **[Kentucky Sheriff Arrested After Allegedly Punching Girl in the Face During...](https://lawandcrime.com/caught-on-video/kentucky-sheriff-arrested-after-allegedly-punching-girl-in-the-face-during-basketball-game-video/)** > > In the footage, the fight is precipitated by an on-court dispute over a loose ball. Moments later, the man identified as the sheriff jumps into the melee. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2285 "2021-12-10T15:47:10Z")
On court melee and, acting as the assistant coach, he jumped in. He’s been charged with assault in the 4th degree, which looks like a misdemeanor and fine for $500. Not sure this should be considered in this thread. [https://apollolawoffice.com/practice-areas/criminal-defense/assault/](https://apollolawoffice.com/practice-areas/criminal-defense/assault/) - **Assault in the 4th Degree** – In Kentucky, assault in the 4th degree is a misdemeanor offense resulting from an assault that results in minimal injury to the alleged victim. An individual can recklessly cause physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument and still be culpable for this offense. Assault in the 4th degree in Kentucky is punishable by a maximum fine of $500 and up to 12 months in jail. If the assault is committed during an extreme emotional disturbance the maximum fine is $250 and not more than 90 days in jail. Likewise, the penalty can be increased in circumstances where an individual has three or more convictions for assault in the fourth degree against a family member or other person with whom there was an unmarried relationship within five years. There is no requirement that the victims be the same individuals under Kentucky law. In such instances, the penalty may be increased to a felony with a maximum fine of $10,000 not less than $1,000 and not more than 5 years in prison and not less than 1 year in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2286 "2021-12-11T10:09:09Z")
How did he die? > **[Former NFL player Glenn Foster dies after arrest in Alabama](https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-entertainment-arrests-tuscaloosa-8a3c22881f181797b0bcfdcad65a679d)** > > REFORM, Ala. (AP) — Arrested for driving twice the speed limit through a rural Alabama community, former NFL player Glenn Foster Jr. wound up in a jail where he allegedly beat up another prisoner while trying to steal socks, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2287 "2021-12-16T14:13:42Z")
Another County Sheriff going all Clint “stay off my lawn” Eastwood on people. > **[Idaho AG's office charges sheriff with felonies after allegedly threatening...](https://idahocapitalsun.com/2021/12/15/idaho-ags-office-charges-sheriff-with-felonies-after-allegedly-threatening-youth-group-with-gun/)** > > BLACKFOOT — A local sheriff faces serious felony charges for allegedly threatening a youth group with a gun in November. The Idaho Attorney General’s Office charged Bingham County Sheriff Craig Rowland on Tuesday with felony aggravated battery,... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=113) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=115)