# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 131
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2608 "2022-05-15T19:48:01Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > At least it ended without anyone getting shot ewwww ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2609 "2022-05-20T03:36:19Z")
Former South Carolina deputy sentenced to 18 years for driving his police van through floodwaters, leading to two women drowning in the back of the van. > **[A former deputy gets 18 years after 2 women drowned in a locked police van](https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1100269966/south-carolina-drownings-deputy-locked-van-sentenced)** > > A police van in South Carolina was swept away by floodwaters in the aftermath of Hurricane Florence, drowning two women who were trapped in a cage in the back. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2610 "2022-05-20T13:12:26Z")
> A Marion County jury found former Horry County deputy **Stephen Flood** guilty of two counts of involuntary manslaughter and two counts of reckless homicide. Uh … how the hell did he not see **that** coming ? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2611 "2022-05-21T22:26:36Z")
Two women (one of whom was a 911 dispatcher) went to the police in Alexandria, Louisiana to report that a man had assaulted them and was stalking them. The police told them to come back on another day. In the meantime, he murdered them. > **[2 Women Went To A Police Station To Say They Were Being Stalked, Only Told To...](https://www.frontpagedetectives.com/p/louisiana-women-killed-stalking-prison)** > > Two women went to Louisiana police to say they were being stalked, and within hours they were dead. Now, the killer will head to prison for decades. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2612 "2022-05-22T01:04:32Z")
There is this thing that happens inside gasoline ICE vehicles that involves [gasoline and a spark](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jean-barreto-cooked-alive-deputy-taser-gas-station-florida-lawyers/) > [@](#): > > Attorneys for a Florida man say he is still fighting for his life after being “cooked alive” in February when a sheriff’s deputy allegedly deployed a Taser while the man was covered in gas while fueling his motorbike. Jean Barreto, 26, has third-degree burns over 75% of his body, his [lawyers said](https://www.facebook.com/nejamelaw/posts/7378407055534715) Wednesday. Apparently this combustion principle is either not well understood or is easily forgotten by police in the, uh, heat of the moment (which the officer also learned about quite firsthandedly). ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2022, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2613 "2022-05-23T04:07:59Z")
Ft. Worth cop fired for throwing a handcuffed prisoner face first on the pavement and knocking him unconscious, then failing to report it. It was the second incident with the department since his hiring in 2017. > **[Fort Worth Officer Fired; Video Shows Handcuffed Man Thrown to Ground](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/fort-worth-officer-fired-video-shows-handcuffed-man-thrown-to-ground/2973985/)** > > The Tarrant County District Attorney’s office will review the firing of a Fort Worth Police officer to determine if possible criminal charges will be filed. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2614 "2022-05-26T07:25:39Z")
When the active shooter incident at Robb Elementary began yesterday, the police let the shooter barricade himself in a classroom with children and adults inside, then started evacuating their own children and left him in there for an hour, without making any attempt to break down the door, until they found a teacher with a key, during which time they threatened to Tase parents who wanted to rush the school themselves. **ALL** of the dead were in that classroom. > **[Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school](https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683)** > > UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman's rampage killed 19 children and two teachers , witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that... > > > Andy Specht @AndySpecht > Perhaps someone should have reported that there was a black child kneeling during the Pledge of Allegiance or a 78-year-old woman with dementia and they’d have gone in guns blazing. The Uvalde police are abject cowards and deserve to be charged with accessory to murder. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2615 "2022-05-26T14:26:35Z")
I’m having a hard time expressing my displeasure regarding the response from both police on the scene and lawmakers without it sounding like a call to violence. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2616 "2022-05-26T15:02:04Z")
The good guys with guns were afraid of the bad guy with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2617 "2022-05-26T15:04:03Z")
Leroy Jethro Gibbs – _NCIS:_ > Courage doesn’t have anything to do with medals. It’s simple. You run to the gunfire, not away from it. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2618 "2022-05-26T16:16:25Z")
Saitama - One Punch Man: “If the heroes run away, who’s left to help?” ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2619 "2022-05-26T20:27:36Z")
> **[Uvalde Police Officers Allegedly Saved Their Own Kids From Robb Elementary...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/uvalde-police-officer-admits-cops-saved-their-own-kids-from-robb-elementary-before-stopping-shooter/ar-AAXLzkH?li=BBnb7Kz)** > > Police were outside the school for up to an hour before stopping the shooter. _While the police went to the scene soon after, it took them a while to go into the school. It was later revealed that some police officers went into the school to save their children first._ I have a feeling there will be some tension in that community. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2620 "2022-05-27T00:01:13Z")
[A mother who was handcuffed outside the Texas school shooting later ran into the school and pulled her two children to safety: report (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-mother-who-was-handcuffed-outside-the-texas-school-shooting-later-ran-into-the-school-and-pulled-her-two-children-to-safety-report/ar-AAXLJ98?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=8c53b0cd44044eb495a7e8425a8c4b08) > Angeli Rose Gomez, a farm supervisor working nearby who has children in second and third grade at Robb, told the Journal that she drove 40 miles to the school when she heard about the shooting, only to see an apparent lack of response from law enforcement as the gunman barricaded himself in a classroom. > > “The police were doing nothing,” Gomez told The Journal. “They were just standing outside the fence. They weren’t going in there or running anywhere.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2621 "2022-05-27T02:12:41Z")
Police spokesman on CNN explains that the cops were just too darn scared to engage the shooter because he might have shot at them. > ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2622 "2022-05-27T02:21:33Z")
A Uvalde cop yelled at the kids to yell for help. One kid did, and the shooter killed him. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2623 "2022-05-27T02:29:17Z")
I think the solution is to further militarize the police. A howitzer would have solved the crisis with no threat to the police. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2624 "2022-05-27T18:34:05Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > A howitzer would have solved the crisis with no threat to the police. I don’t know about that. Seems rather clumsy. Better that all small town police departments be equipped with Apache helicopters with APKWS - Advanced Precision Kill Weapons Systems. These missiles could have taken out the school easily, with minimal danger to police. Also, the 30mm chain gun (600 rounds/minute) could have taken care of any stragglers. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2625 "2022-05-27T18:39:20Z")
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2626 "2022-05-27T19:05:16Z")
Where’s our “Like” button? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2627 "2022-05-27T19:33:47Z")
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