# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 133
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2648 "2022-06-02T21:51:12Z")
I submit this without comment. The deputy’s Congressional Representative in Washington DC is ?? [drum roll] [![](https://ziplook.house.gov/zip/pictures/ga14_mtgreene.jpg) ](https://ziplook.house.gov/zip/pictures/ga14_mtgreene.jpg) Who down wit’ M-T-G ?!? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2649 "2022-06-04T01:13:13Z")
Former cop arrested at the US capitol with ammo, fake badge, body armor and BB gun. The badge said “Department of the INTERPOL”, and he claimed to be an investigator. > **[Former police officer arrested outside US Capitol with ammunition, fake badge...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/03/politics/capitol-police-arrest-man/index.html)** > > The US Capitol Police on Friday charged a retired New York police officer with unlawful possession of high-capacity magazines and unregistered ammunition, according to the agency. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2650 "2022-06-04T05:47:16Z")
My reaction on Twitter to someone retweeting this was, > “Department of the INTERPOL”? Did he buy that from a Nigerian prince? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2651 "2022-06-04T05:49:45Z")
he obviously bought it at a Department store ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2652 "2022-06-04T12:41:53Z")
His code name was **MapMaker.** He was last stationed in **[the Iraq](https://youtu.be/lj3iNxZ8Dww).** ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2653 "2022-06-06T03:14:50Z")
controversial non-encounter > **['I'm not jumping in after you:' Man drowned in Tempe Town Lake as police...](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/man-dead-after-jumping-into-tempe-town-lake-police-say)** > > Three police officers have been placed on administrative leave after they reportedly watched as a man drowned in Tempe Town Lake, transcripts revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2654 "2022-06-07T00:53:04Z")
The sheriff of Pierce County, WA has been slapped with a restraining order for repeatedly stalking a newspaper deliveryman who he nearly got killed last year. > **[Court issues no-contact order against Sheriff Ed Troyer, citing ‘unlawful...](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/court-issues-no-contact-order-against-sheriff-ed-troyer-citing-unlawful-harassment-of-black-newspaper-carrier/)** > > Pierce County Sheriff Ed Troyer has been ordered to stay 1,000 feet from a Black newspaper carrier, after a court cited evidence of ongoing "unlawful harassment." ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2655 "2022-06-07T14:13:39Z")
I was coming in to post this same story. How is he still a cop? I thought you were supposed to throw out the bad apples. Or is the intention to have the bad apples spoil the whole damn bunch? If so, it seems “mission accomplished”. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2656 "2022-06-07T14:52:51Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > How is he still a cop? He’s the Sheriff, an elected position, so that’s just a whole nother set of problems to get that bad apple away from the bunch. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2657 "2022-06-07T17:29:52Z")
A Uvalde parent who went into the school to retrieve her two children says the cops are telling her that unless she stops talking, she’ll be charged with a probation violation. [https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde-mom-saved-her-children-152622931.html](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/uvalde-mom-saved-her-children-152622931.html) ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2658 "2022-06-07T17:37:44Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > How is he still a cop? I couldn’t read the article because it was paywalled, but a quick google search tells me county sheriffs in Washington state are elected. ETA: I swear those other responses weren’t there when I started typing that. _shakes fist at Discourse_ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2659 "2022-06-07T18:51:45Z")
When I write a post, I see icons representing other posters trying to ninja me – before hitting reply, it is possible to collapse the reply pane to check who got inB4U. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2660 "2022-06-07T21:34:46Z")
> [@Ponderoid](#): > > I couldn’t read the article because it was paywalled, but a quick google search tells me county sheriffs in Washington state are elected. King County, where Seattle is located, just recently did away with elected sheriffs and the sheriff is now appointed by the county executive, but otherwise that is indeed the case. My county and the next county over have twin brothers as sheriffs who are both anti-mask nutjobs, and the leading candidate to replace ours this November is a former K9 officer who shot his own dog during a traffic stop. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2661 "2022-06-09T01:06:06Z")
An Australian flew into Honolulu, from which he was going to travel on to the mainland, and then later continue on his journey to Mexico. But there’s a rule that says that if foreigners are traveling on from the United States to a different country, they have to continue to a country that does not border the US. Since his tickets didn’t show him going anywhere else, he was arrested, strip searched, held in general population in a jail for 30 hours, and then deported back to Australia. > **[Australian traveller strip-searched, held in US prison and deported over...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/08/australian-traveller-strip-searched-held-in-us-prison-and-deported-over-little-known-entry-requirement)** > > Jack Dunn was detained for 30 hours with no access to phone or family because onward flight from US went to neighbouring country ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2662 "2022-06-09T02:58:42Z")
Wait what? So my friends in New Zealand are not allowed to travel to Canada and transit through Hawaii or even through LAX? But but… I know people who have done just this… ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2663 "2022-06-09T03:28:41Z")
I think the rule only applies if you don’t have a return ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2664 "2022-06-09T04:53:50Z")
It looks like a rule that is not clearly written in any public website or other public US government material, and is used by border guards at their discretion if they suspect that someone is going to try to sneak back into the US from the bordering country. The US immigration folks can send you back if they don’t like the colour of your shoes. They have complete and utter authority and there isn’t a damn thing anyone can do about it. I had a friend banned from entry to the US for 5 years because the guy at the border did not like the look of him, and did not like his car. This is pretty much explicitly what he was told when he was sent back. What to do about this? Nothing. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2665 "2022-06-09T05:36:18Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The US immigration folks can send you back if they don’t like the colour of your shoes. They have complete and utter authority and there isn’t a damn thing anyone can do about it. Foreigners visiting/working in the US are granted the protections of the Constitution, but CBP stations seem to be in a twilight region that is legally not in the US. Kind of like the way Gitmo is. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2666 "2022-06-09T10:47:57Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > When I write a post, I see icons representing other posters trying to ninja me – before hitting reply, it is possible to collapse the reply pane to check who got inB4U. Put your cursor on the blue bar above the reply pane. Click-and-drag the blue bar up/down as desired. You can also put your mouse cursor on the thread (above the reply pane) and scroll up or down using your scroll wheel (or the scroll bar at far right to see any part of the thread, including fresh ninja posts at the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2667 "2022-06-09T19:52:41Z")
The cop who killed Patrick Lyoya in Grand Rapids, MI is being charged (2d degree murder): > **[Grand Rapids officer charged with second-degree murder in shooting of Patrick...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/us/patrick-lyoya-police-shooting-charges/index.html)** > > A police officer was charged Thursday with one count of second-degree murder in the killing of Patrick Lyoya, who was shot in the back of the head during a struggle after an April traffic stop, a Michigan prosecutor said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=132) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=134)