# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2668 "2022-06-09T20:46:21Z")
Hopefully they’ll arrest the bastards that murdered Jack Dunn too . . . oh, wait… ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2669 "2022-06-10T18:10:26Z")
The Uvalde chief of police _intentionally_ left his radio behind. > **[Uvalde School’s Top Cop Intentionally Ditched Radio](https://www.thedailybeast.com/uvalde-school-district-police-chief-pete-arrendondo-intentionally-ditched-radio-during-shooting-he-says)** > > Pete Arredondo also told the Texas Tribune that the police response to the school was delayed by a set of roughly 20 to 30 keys. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2670 "2022-06-11T23:56:30Z")
> **[Chicago officer resigns after video shows physical struggle with woman...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/chicago-officer-resigns-video-shows-030116317.html)** > > A white Chicago police officer resigned after he was captured on video repeatedly grabbing a Black woman walking her dog in a confrontation her lawyers called “ ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2671 "2022-06-12T03:27:58Z")
I’m puzzled that it looks like a daylight scene even though it’s midnight. Can cell phone cameras make that kind of correction? Was the person with the camera also trespassing on city property because the beach was closed? It appears from the description that the officer did not even try to calmly point out to the woman, from a distance respecting her space, that she was trespassing on city property. Then, after a couple of minutes of struggle, he (properly) let go and let her walk away. I wonder if that was the point when he realized he was on another person’s video, and thought better of what he had been allowing himself to picture doing to this woman who wasn’t properly respectful. I expect his next job will be on a suburban police force. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2672 "2022-06-12T04:01:05Z")
San Antonio cops shot and killed a 13 year old boy and it took five days before they notified his mother. > **[13-year-old boy killed by San Antonio police was grieving death of his...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mother-says-san-antonio-police-killed-13-year-old-son-took-five-days-t-rcna32424)** > > “I really don’t understand what the police are hiding,” she said. “My son was 13 years old. That’s the key. He was a little boy, and he did not deserve to get shot and killed by a police officer.” ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2673 "2022-06-12T18:57:52Z")
"When police approached the car, driven by Andre and carrying two other teens, the boy threw it into reverse and struck another patrol car behind him, he said. Fearing officers would be struck again, an officer from the first patrol car fired once into the fleeing vehicle, killing the boy, police said." Since when did patrol cars become officers? I understand their outrage that someone dared to back into a sacred police vehicle but even if there were officers in the car, they weren’t in a whole lot of danger. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2674 "2022-06-12T19:35:05Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > even if there were officers in the car, they weren’t in a whole lot of danger But, what about their dignity? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2675 "2022-06-12T20:52:26Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I expect his next job will be on a suburban police force. I expect he’ll get promoted, and make Chief one day. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2676 "2022-06-13T11:28:22Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I’m puzzled that it looks like a daylight scene even though it’s midnight. Can cell phone cameras make that kind of correction? Looks like the incident took place in a parking lot with good bright overhead lighting. That creates strong shadows, which is a visual cue that helps make the scene feel like mid-day. The only correct a cell phone camera would be expected to provide is automatic exposure adjustment to move the overall brightness of the scene toward some prescribed setting. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2677 "2022-06-14T19:58:11Z")
> **[$1.5M to be paid to police chief who displayed Nazi insignia](https://news.yahoo.com/1-5m-paid-police-chief-232823521.html)** > > A suburban Seattle city will pay more than $1.5 million to settle a dispute with a former assistant police chief who was disciplined for posting a Nazi rank insignia on his office door and joking about the Holocaust. Former Kent Assistant Police... I think this qualifies, since the chief had an encounter with the civilian authorities who wanted to fire him after he repeatedly and controversially _JOKED ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST AND SHOWED NAZI SYMBOLS AT WORK._ ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2678 "2022-06-15T06:08:33Z")
Why settle the fucking dispute?? Take it trial you yellowbellied bastards!!! Fight and counter sue!! The only way you will get rid of these assholes is to stand up. If you lay down, their are others lining up. I have to suspect that this cop probably has naked pictures of somebody in the local government. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2679 "2022-06-15T17:55:05Z")
So, all I have to do to become a millionaire is join the police force, with its generous union and laws that make it hard to kick you out, joke about the Holocaust, put up a Nazi symbol, and dare them to do something about it? Jesus. Why the _fuck_ did I work retail for 16 years? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2680 "2022-06-17T15:18:18Z")
Up there in BFIdaho, back in January, Michael Trappet was having a very unpleasant episode, at least in part because his dog, a rescue, had not made it past a car. The police show up to ~~escalate~~ deal with the kerfuffle and naturally end up sending the man to be with his dog. Recently released bodycam footage reveals one of the responders muttering “[I guess I’m going to lose my gun again](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gonna-lose-gun-idaho-deputy-said-minutes-fatally-shooting-man-mental-h-rcna33601)” (she was involved in a previous shooting, but that guy survived). In the officer’s defense, the man did have a knife. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2681 "2022-06-17T15:35:09Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Why settle the fucking dispute?? Take it trial you yellowbellied bastards!!! Often lawsuits are settled out of court because it’s cheaper to pay them to go away than pay the attorneys’ fees. $1.5-mil sounds an awful lot for that to be the case, though. Maybe it was covered by insurance while the fees would not be? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2682 "2022-06-17T16:41:24Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Often lawsuits are settled out of court because it’s cheaper to pay them to go away than pay the attorneys’ fees. $1.5-mil sounds an awful lot for that to be the case, though. Maybe it was covered by insurance while the fees would not be? But if you fight and counter sue once in a while and make the plaintiff cry like a little girl in court, you might dissuade some of these fucks. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2683 "2022-06-17T16:50:11Z")
You all are assuming that there isn’t a good number of the citizenry in that town that actually agree that firing a police chief for being a Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2684 "2022-06-17T19:01:32Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Jesus. Why the _fuck_ did I work retail for 16 years? Because you have integrity and/or a spine? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2685 "2022-06-17T19:12:50Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > You all are assuming that there isn’t a good number of the citizenry in that town that actually agree that firing a police chief for being a Nazi. I meant of course that you are assuming that there are aren’t a good number of people who think being a police chief and being. Nazi aren’t mutually exclusionary. We certainly had a police chief whose politically correct posts on the Town’s unofficial Facebook page under “Joe Smith - Chief of Police” were undercut by the shit he posted under “Joe Smith” at the same time. In response to the Dept getting sued: Joe Smith - Chief of Police:“The Police Department does not condone sexual harassment in and way shape or form.” And commenting on that very post. Joe Smith: “If you can’t take a little ass and tit grabbing during training, maybe you shouldn’t be a cop” Similar kind of stuff on the George Floyd verdict. And of course most people backed him for reappointment and were royally pissed when the Board of Selectmen voted against it. The selectmen who voted against him promptly lost the next election. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2686 "2022-06-18T00:25:03Z")
The city of Uvalde and the police department have hired a private law firm to prevent the release of information about the shooting, because some of the records could include “highly embarrassing information." It’s going to come down to Ken Paxton as to which data will be released, so it will be sure that nothing embarrassing will be released. > **[Uvalde Hires Private Law Firm to Argue It Doesn’t Have to Release School...](https://www.vice.com/en/article/88q95p/uvalde-contracts-private-law-firm-to-argue-it-doesnt-have-to-release-school-shooting-public-records)** > > Some of the records relating to the Robb Elementary School shooting could be “highly embarrassing,” involve “emotional/mental distress,” and are “not of legitimate concern to the public,” the lawyers argued. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2687 "2022-06-18T00:29:49Z")
“highly embarrassing information"? More embarrassing than what we already know? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=133) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=135)