# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 135
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2688 "2022-06-18T01:58:11Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > You all are assuming that there isn’t a good number of the citizenry in that town that actually agree that firing a police chief for being a Nazi In Kent? Not likely. You gotta go down the road to Bonney Lake to find the Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2689 "2022-06-18T03:31:19Z")
Well, I get the impression there are slightly more White-Wingers in Enumclaw than Bonney Lake. All the hippies live in between, in Buckley. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2690 "2022-06-18T04:26:25Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > All the hippies live in between, in Buckley. On the other hand, this guy’s parents own the drive-in in Buckley, so… > **[Ethan Nordean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Nordean)** > > Obstructing an official proceeding > Ethan Nordean, also known as Rufio Panman, is an American far-right political activist, convicted felon and a leader of the Proud Boys, an all-male neo-fascist organization that engages in political violence. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2691 "2022-06-18T04:30:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > On the other hand, this guy’s parents own the drive-in in Buckley And they disowned him. Not literally _disowned_ the person but firmly rejected his bugfuckery. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2692 "2022-06-19T23:05:26Z")
7 asshole cops suffocate a man in cuffs, then have the balls to try to ‘revive’ him. > **[Two NC police officers on administrative leave after man dies while being...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/two-nc-police-officers-on-administrative-leave-after-man-dies-while-being-restrained/vi-AAYDKHG?ocid=EMMX&cvid=5937964285db45eca28b2b4f7716f0cc)** > > Video shows 35-year-old Christopher Hensley pinned to the street at an apartment complex in North Carolina, surrounded by officers and screaming in pain. I have 2 words for you. [Positional asphyxiation.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positional_asphyxia) Hint: People who are suffocating tend to struggle. If you were to handcuff me and lay me face down, I would suffocate, even without 7 assholes on top of me. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2693 "2022-06-21T02:59:59Z")
“[Bettencourt said](https://www.click2houston.com/news/investigates/2022/06/20/bettencourt-uvalde-elementary-classroom-door-unlocked-during-rampage-law-enforcement-didnt-try-to-see-if-it-would-open/) it appeared the (Uvalde) shooter was able to gain access through one of the unlocked classroom doors. The door was left untested afterwards by police.” nothing seems to be helping their image ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2694 "2022-06-21T03:19:33Z")
They’re banning parents and journalists from City Hall. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2695 "2022-06-21T03:30:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > nothing seems to be helping their image And they evidently had officers armed with rifles and at least one ballistic shield standing around in the school corridors for an hour. > [@](#): > > The officers with heavier firepower and tactical equipment were there within 19 minutes of the gunman arriving on campus — earlier than previously known, according to documents reviewed by the Austin American-Statesman and and KVUE-TV. > **[Report: Police in Uvalde had rifles earlier than known](https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-shooting-police-testimony-601af4d0115ffd6d7b95ff9d1d82f37a)** > > Documents examined by the Austin American-Statesman and KVUE-TV show armed police officers stood in a Uvalde elementary school hallway with at least one ballistic shield within 19 minutes of a gunman arriving at the school, where he killed 21 people,... ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2696 "2022-06-21T18:58:56Z")
It looks like Lousyana is a place to not go, > **[‘It was hot’: Woman says she got a ticket for ‘indecent exposure’ while...](https://www.dailydot.com/irl/cited-indecent-exposure-crop-shorts/)** > > A TikToker claimed she got a ticket for indecent exposure in Winnfield, Louisiana, while wearing a crop top and shorts. It is not clear why the police felt compelled to issue the citation, other than they claimed to have received complaints. KSA, here we come. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2697 "2022-06-21T19:11:28Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It is not clear why the police felt compelled to issue the citation, She was not wearing a Burka. Pretty straightforward. She should go to court dressed like this: > **[Muslim Islamic Women Full Length Plain Burka/Burqa with Face Cover Veil/Niqab ,...](https://www.amazon.ca/Muslim-Islamic-Women-Length-Plain/dp/B01LWT1Y41)** > > Three piece Muslim and Islamic Women Burqa/Burka. This item includes three pieces:Lining: an abaya like long dress with long sleeves that can be worn as lining with other Abayas and Jibabs too.Burka/Burqa: a full length enveloping outer garment worn... ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2698 "2022-06-21T23:37:05Z")
Ran across [a CBC story](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-public-communications-after-mass-shooting-1.6495974) about a kerfuffle in NS which left a bunch of folks done dancing (there may have been guns from US involved) and the Mounties messed up on the reporting (I submit that it is police that are the problem, not US police). But it got me to wondering. The incident took place over about 13 hours, from about 10pm to 11am. across several locations. What exactly is the delineation between a mass murderer and a serial murderer? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2699 "2022-06-22T01:39:50Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What exactly is the delineation between a mass murderer and a serial murderer? Sounds like what the FBI would classify as a spree killing. Mass murderers kill a bunch of people in one place. The [Las Vegas shooting in 2017](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting) would qualify. Serial killers kill people (often just one) in one location. Then they later kill someone else in another location. And so on. Three kills seems to be the criteria. Between kills, they resume their normal lives, sometimes for months, years, or even a decade (like BTK did). Spree killers operate like serial killers, except that there is no cooling-down period. They go from place to place fairly quickly, and they may kill more people in each individual attack. The [Beltway shooters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks) would qualify. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2700 "2022-06-24T18:23:16Z")
There’s a video floating around of two cops from Jericho, Texas racially profiling a black man for parking in a handicapped spot. The black guy pointed out to the two cops that his license plate had a disabled veteran tag on it. The black guy also let them know that he is a cop as well, and he knew all the jargon. They kept asking for his ID, which he refused to provide, saying they could look up the plate and see that he had a right to park there. I don’t know the result of the video, but it made the two white cops look bad. One of the cops was the Jericho police chief. After a meeting with the mayor today, he has resigned. I would like to know how a disabled veteran qualifies to be a cop, but that’s a different question. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2701 "2022-06-24T18:26:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I would like to know how a disabled veteran qualifies to be a cop, but that’s a different question. Could be a jailer or something like that. We had a former police officer who had suffered several heart attacks continue serving as court security. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2702 "2022-06-24T19:10:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I would like to know how a disabled veteran qualifies to be a cop, but that’s a different question. I’ve seen a video of a cop running down a suspect, tackling, and cuffing him. The cop had one real leg and one prosthetic leg. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2703 "2022-06-26T17:37:29Z")
25 year old Nevada black man arrested for a warrant for a 49 year old white man. > **[For first time, video shown of cops arresting Black man, 25, on warrant for...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/first-time-video-shown-cops-205812016.html)** > > Newly-released footage of a mistaken identity arrest shows a young Black man repeatedly informing police they had the wrong suspect \[…\] The post For first time, video shown of cops arresting Black man, 25, on warrant for 49-yr. old white man appeared... ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2704 "2022-06-26T18:19:49Z")
> **[Rhode Island police officer suspended for off-duty actions at abortion protest](https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2022/06/26/officer-suspended-for-off-duty-actions-at-abortion-protest/?p1=hp_featurestack)** > > “I'm disappointed he chose to use violence in this way. As a police officer, he's trained to deescalate. He did not do what he was trained to do.” We can totally depend on the police to be even handed at these protests. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2705 "2022-06-27T07:45:28Z")
Cop in Columbus, OH tries to shoot a dog, winds up shooting himself in the leg instead. > **[Columbus officer shot in leg in Hilltop area](https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/columbus-police-officer-shot-leg-hilltop-south-harris-avenue)** > > A Columbus police officer was taken to a hospital after being shot in the leg while trying to shoot a dog, according to a message from the department. Note the masterful use of passive voice in the article. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2706 "2022-06-27T08:03:10Z")
“Columbus officer shot in leg in Hilltop area” What part of the leg is the Hilltop? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2022, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2707 "2022-06-27T11:18:22Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Note the masterful use of passive voice in the article. Maybe the dog was carrying and fired back in self-defense? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=134) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=136)