# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

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**Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2748 "2022-07-16T16:03:03Z")

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The irony is that those cards were presumably made to mock the concept of white privilege, not to prove that it exists.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2749 "2022-07-16T19:40:19Z")

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Also, under what definition is she white?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2750 "2022-07-16T20:18:25Z")

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Under the “Model Minority” program.

I’m not joking. I encounter a frightening number of Asian Americans and (lighter skinned) Latinos who are all in with white supremacy because they believe they will be accepted as white after victory in the racial holy war.

My brother (a first generation South Asian immigrant) is a vocal defender of the internment of Japanese Americans in WW2. People who oppose it don’t understand what patriotism requires in wartime.

My sister insists that the abuse her son (an Army veteran) faces is acceptable anti-immigration sentiment, not unacceptable racism. Yup, those people denigrating his military service would be doing the same if he was second generation Irish-American.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2751 "2022-07-16T23:13:54Z")

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I guess hospital security counts as law enforcement. Hospital security guards beat a kidney patient because he’s black, so he must be trying to steal a car. He died, by the way, though of his kidney problem.

> **[Black kidney patient beaten by hospital security guards after they assume he...](https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2022/07/15/lawsuit-black-kidney-patient-beaten-by-hospital-security-guards/)**
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> While looking for the car, officials thought Robinson searched for cars to steal. Instead of asking Robinson for his parking ticket, they tackled him to the ground, took him into a room, and interrogated him. 

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2752 "2022-07-17T02:42:59Z")

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While taking a course at university (“The Legal History of the Asian-American”), I was shocked, but in retrospect, I realized I should not have been, to learn that how Asians have been treated in American history has been one of how white the majority population sees them at the time. When considered to be white, good treatment; when not considered white, bad treatment.

And I have heard from an Asian American: “There are only two races: Whites and non-whites”. I wonder how she’s processing that now, what with the anti-Asian bigotry running rampant.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2753 "2022-07-17T02:51:18Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And I have heard from an Asian American: “There are only two races: Whites and non-whites”. I wonder how she’s processing that now, what with the anti-Asian bigotry running rampant.

Most of the Chinese Americans I know think anti-Asian bigotry is a problem with Black people, not white. All the scary videos I’ve seen on WeChat have been of Black assailants or assailants that aren’t identifiable by race but are claimed to be Black. Not most. All. Now the Chinese Americans I know skew heavily into the “one foot in each country” type, and contempt for Black people is pretty endemic in Chinese culture. Maybe second, third and further generation Chinese Americans are systematically different.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2754 "2022-07-17T15:41:42Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Anchorage cops apparently believe in MAGAt immunity.

Meh. More of a twist on let go with a warning instead of a citation.

Kind of like the one where the officer asked for the driver’s pilot’s license after he pulled him over for speeding and he just happened to have one.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2755 "2022-07-17T21:10:09Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Under the “Model Minority” program.
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> I’m not joking. I encounter a frightening number of Asian Americans and (lighter skinned) Latinos who are all in with white supremacy because they believe they will be accepted as white after victory in the racial holy war.

Huh. I’d scoff, but American Jews have been doing that for well over a century.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2756 "2022-07-21T17:37:36Z")

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White police chief of an 80% minority town in Mississippi recorded bragging about killing 13 people in the line of duty, saying, “I shot that n----- 119 times, OK?”

> **[Mississippi police chief linked to racist recording — Mississippi Center for...](https://www.mississippicir.org/news/mississippi-police-chief-linked-to-racist-recording)**
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> In a recording obtained by MCIR, a Mississippi law enforcement officer can be heard bragging about killing 13 people in the line of duty, saying, “I shot that n----- 119 times, OK?”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2757 "2022-07-22T03:55:39Z")

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From your link:

> I will articulate to fix the f—ing problem, and I’m the only man in the business here that’s smart enough to do it.

Oh, yeah. That’s one articulate dude.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2758 "2022-07-22T04:06:08Z")

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He uses his tongue prettier than a ~~twenty dollar whore~~ two bit sailor?

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2759 "2022-07-22T05:26:35Z")

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wrong thread, sorry.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2760 "2022-07-22T15:09:40Z")

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[TikTok Challenge Eyed in Bronx Shooting Death of Teenager – NBC New York](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bronx-teen-with-toy-gun-seen-in-tiktok-trend-shot-to-death-by-off-duty-correction-officer-ny-only/3785659/)

It was an off duty correctional officer who shot him.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2761 "2022-07-22T15:34:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> White police chief of an 80% minority town in Mississippi recorded bragging about killing 13 people in the line of duty, saying, “I shot that n----- 119 times, OK?”

From the quotes in that article…he may be a racist mother fucker, but what he _definitely is_ is a lying mother fucker. He may as well have said he banged Morgan Fairchild.

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2762 "2022-07-22T15:55:08Z")

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And so the NYPD has declared this an illegal air rifle:

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2763 "2022-07-22T16:39:32Z")

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How can that be illegal? It doesn’t look _anything_ like a cell phone!

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2764 "2022-07-22T16:48:35Z")

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Maybe they’re commonly carried by people selling single cigarettes.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2765 "2022-07-22T17:44:31Z")

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Is it up to the cops to declare what is and is not illegal?

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2766 "2022-07-22T18:11:38Z")

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No, but they do have to make in-the-moment calls on things. I guess announcing it does two mostly things:

1. Tells people that they can be arrested if using one in public
2. Lets someone go to a judge ahead of arrest and argue that it isn’t

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2767 "2022-07-22T18:16:45Z")

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How can a toy gun be illegal when real ones are not?

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