# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2808 "2022-08-04T00:41:05Z")

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Boston cop chasing a white suspect arrests a black man.

> **[Suit: Police chasing white suspect wrongly arrest Black man](https://apnews.com/article/crime-arrests-boston-lawsuits-massachusetts-6d95342c65226bb1d841947ae4b1603e)**
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> BOSTON (AP) — A suburban Boston police officer who was pursuing a white suspect pinned a 20-year-old Black man to the ground as he was walking home and placed a knee on the man's neck despite having no evidence that he was involved in any crime,...

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2809 "2022-08-04T17:29:00Z")

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Followup on an older incident.

[Ex-Windsor police officer not facing charges in 2020 traffic stop of Army lieutenant](https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/isle-of-wight/windsor-police-officer-not-facing-charges-in-2020-traffic-stop-special-prosecutor-says/)

> In a letter written by Hampton Commonwealth’s Attorney Anton Bell to Isle of Wight Commonwealth’s Attorney Georgette Phillips, Bell said he decided not to prosecute following the high-profile traffic stop in which Windsor police held Lt. Caron Nazario at gunpoint and pepper sprayed him. Bell was appointed special prosecutor for the case.
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> Bell said he did reached out to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia to formally request that the office open an investigation and see whether then-Windsor police officer Joe Gutierrez violated Nazario’s civil rights. Specifically, Bell requested the U.S. Attorney to see whether Gutierrez violated Title 18, Section 242 (Color Of Law).
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> “As such, taking all facts and law into consideration, I have concluded that I have found no violation of state law occurred on the date in question,” the documents state.

Maybe? Would this not have fallen under the umbrella of assault or something similar?

At least it’s not a complete rugsweep and has been referred for federal investigation.

And the officer was fired. No idea if he didn’t get immediately hired in the next town up the road.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2810 "2022-08-04T18:42:52Z")

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DOJ just filed charges on 4 officers connected with the murder of Breonna Taylor.

> **[UPDATED: 4 LMPD officers facing federal charges in connection to Breonna...](https://www.lpm.org/news/2022-08-04/updated-4-lmpd-officers-facing-federal-charges-in-connection-to-breonna-taylor-killing)**
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> Four current and former Louisville police officers are facing federal civil rights charges related to the 2020 killing of Breonna Taylor.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2811 "2022-08-05T22:08:37Z")

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Denver cops shot six people standing in line for a food truck, so the solution to the problem of shooting innocent people is to ban food trucks.

> **[Denver bans food trucks in Lodo area on weekends | KRDO](https://krdo.com/news/2022/08/04/denver-bans-food-trucks-in-lodo-area-on-weekends/)**
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> The City of Denver and the Denver Police Department say they've found a solution to rising crime downtown, but it comes at the cost of local food truck vendors.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2812 "2022-08-06T13:24:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Denver cops shot six people standing in line for a food truck,

“1-Adam-12, show us code 7 at Seventh and Maple”.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2813 "2022-08-06T14:30:53Z")

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Talk about addressing anything and everything except the real problem.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2814 "2022-08-07T04:19:16Z")

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Five cops from one Texas police department have been accused of over 100 assaults and destruction of medical devices, including a dialysis shunt that has required multiple medical treatments.

> **[Busted noses, broken devices: Texas police department routinely rough with...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-police-accused-using-severe-force-medically-vulnerable-rcna41676)**
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> A federal lawsuit says that the Rosenberg Police Department has been routinely aggressive with compliant civilians who are medically vulnerable.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2815 "2022-08-07T05:12:30Z")

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> **[‘What exactly are they doing?’: 45 S.F. traffic cops issue just 10 citations...](https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/bayarea/heatherknight/article/sfpd-traffic-tickets-17355651.php)**
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> Dangerous driving in San Francisco is prevalent, but police issue just 10 traffic...

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2816 "2022-08-07T23:59:09Z")

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Paywalled

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2817 "2022-08-11T18:10:54Z")

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Two Indiana cops have been suspended after they arrested a guy on trumped up charges because they thought he was planning on running for town council and they thought he was anti-cop.

> **[Officers Suspended After Arresting Man They Reportedly Thought Was Anti-Police](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/indiana-arrest-anti-police_n_62f4b204e4b0288b61a1aeab)**
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> The two Brookville, Indiana, cops reportedly didn't want a potential candidate to run for office, so they arrested him.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2818 "2022-08-11T19:41:21Z")

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You think we’re corrupt? You ain’t seen nothin yet!

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2819 "2022-08-11T19:56:36Z")

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Well if he wasn’t anti-cop before.

Hopefully he makes one of his primary goals to being anti-corruption in the next election.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2820 "2022-08-11T22:59:43Z")

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When Derek Chauvin was brought into the local county jail after being arrested for murdering George Floyd, the jail superintendent ordered that no officers of color be allowed to guard him.  
Eight non-white guards have just been awarded money in a lawsuit.  
'[Officers Of Color Barred From Guarding Derek Chauvin Due To Race Get $1.5 Million | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/officers-of-color-barred-from-guarding-derek-chauvin-due-to-race-get-15-million_n_62f50e45e4b0da517ef6511a)

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2821 "2022-08-12T02:41:53Z")

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This guy is just the **git** that keeps on giving, isn’t he?

(The bolded part is a typo that actually fits the sentiment better…)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2822 "2022-08-12T03:56:43Z")

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OK, [this is just fucking nuts](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-library-public-safety-director-resigns-after-fatal-shooting-of-special-police-officer/3130477/). Not actually an encounter with _civilians_, as such, but

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> Douglass Morency, the director of public safety for the DC Public Library system, resigned last week in the hours after [the fatal shooting of a library officer trainee](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/ex-officer-jesse-porter-charged-shooting-at-anacostia-special-officer-training-maurica-manyan/3126175/) at the Anacostia Library, officials confirmed.

Anacostia. Curious. Seems like that is the roughest neighborhood in DC, at least it was at one time, AIUI.

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> Jesse Porter, a retired D.C. police officer, is charged with involuntary manslaughter in her death after sources familiar with the investigation said he drew a pistol to illustrate how quickly it could be done and fired. “I thought I had my training gun. Why did I do this? Is she ok?” witnesses told police that Porter asked.

Fuck. Why do we even let police officers have guns?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2823 "2022-08-12T10:45:12Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> “I thought I had my training gun. Why did I do this? Is she ok?”

And that is why every gun should be considered live and loaded.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2824 "2022-08-14T17:25:24Z")

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So the warrant in the Breonna Taylor case was phony from the very beginning. The cops wanted her house so they lied about the reasons for the warrant.

> **[A Cop Is Accused Of Falsifying Search Warrant Used In Raid Of Breonna...](https://blavity.com/a-cop-is-accused-of-falsifying-search-warrant-used-in-raid-of-breonna-taylors-home-now-her-death-is-being-connected-to-a-housing-development-project)**
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> In the years since the police killing of Breonna Taylor, the 26-year-old woman who was fatally shot after a raid on her Louisville, Kentucky, home, questions about the origin of the search warrant have dominated conversations. Now, the community is...

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2825 "2022-08-14T17:34:00Z")

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Oh, my God. It’s fucking _RoboCop 3._

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2826 "2022-08-15T18:09:37Z")

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Surely if someone has the same name as who is named on a warrant that is enough reason to keep them locked up?

> **[LA woman jailed for nearly 2 weeks in a case of mistaken identity. Now she's...](https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082665050/l-a-woman-jailed-for-nearly-2-weeks-in-a-case-of-mistaken-identity-now-shes-suin)**
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> "All I could think was that it wasn't me," Bethany Farber told NPR. "I just kept insisting that they check ... that they double-check because they had the wrong person." She spent 13 days in jail.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2827 "2022-08-17T17:18:27Z")

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Both are currently in prison.

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> U.S. District Judge Christopher Conner awarded $106 million in compensatory damages and $100 million in punitive damages to nearly 300 people in a long-running civil suit against the judges, writing the plaintiffs are “the tragic human casualties of a scandal of epic proportions.”
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> In what came to be known as the kids-for-cash scandal, Mark Ciavarella and another judge, Michael Conahan, shut down a county-run juvenile detention center and accepted $2.8 million in illegal payments from the builder and co-owner of two for-profit lockups. Ciavarella, who presided over juvenile court, pushed a zero-tolerance policy that guaranteed large numbers of kids would be sent to PA Child Care and its sister facility, Western PA Child Care.
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> Ciavarella ordered children as young as 8 to detention, many of them first-time offenders deemed delinquent for petty theft, jaywalking, truancy, smoking on school grounds and other minor infractions. The judge often ordered youths he had found delinquent to be immediately shackled, handcuffed and taken away without giving them a chance to put up a defense or even say goodbye to their families.

> **[Kids-for-cash judges ordered to pay more than $200M](https://apnews.com/article/crime-trending-news-government-and-politics-6f30f575dc739415af1e5b47b1be50f0)**
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> Two former Pennsylvania judges who orchestrated a scheme to send children to for-profit jails in exchange for kickbacks have been ordered to pay more than $200 million to hundreds of people they victimized in one of the worst judicial scandals in...

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