# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 142
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2828 "2022-08-17T18:08:58Z")
They made this story into an episode of Law & Order. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2829 "2022-08-17T19:18:44Z")
[MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/officer-fired-arrested-after-child-dies-following-fight-game-inside-youth-detention-center/ar-AA10LvUR?ocid=weather-verthp-feeds&cvid=1b16d5fe599145e187cc32e0551f9c13) Corrections Officer running a youth Fight Club ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2830 "2022-08-17T19:52:24Z")
> **[Police detective arrested with Genovese, Bonanno crime family members in New...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-detective-arrested-with-genovese-bonanno-crime-family-members-in-new-york/ar-AA10JHJ2?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=c765499999494233ae5efbb045e97738)** > > Nine members and associates of two of New York City's organized crime families, including one police detective, were arrested Tuesday on gambling and racketeering charges. Once again, a cop is a criminal. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2831 "2022-08-18T03:29:33Z")
The Genoveses and the Bonannos are still operating? I thought wiseguys became extinct by the 2000s. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2832 "2022-08-21T06:44:46Z")
> **[Probe Opened Into Denver Police Shooting That Injured 6](https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-08-17/probe-opened-into-denver-police-shooting-that-injured-6)** > > Denver’s top prosecutor says she is opening a grand jury investigation into the actions of three police officers who wounded six bystanders last month while shooting at an armed suspect in a crowded downtown Denver nightlife zone. A video: > **[r/facepalm - \[NSFW\] Denver Police shoot six innocent bystanders](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/wsrrew/denver_police_shoot_six_innocent_bystanders/)** > > 30,817 votes and 3,393 comments so far on Reddit Multiple body cameras: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BfAHfWr6vvA/maxresdefault.jpg "Denver police body camera footage shows officers shoot gunman, six bystanders in LoDo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfAHfWr6vvA) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2833 "2022-08-21T17:37:31Z")
Yeah, this was the incident where they banned food trucks because the cops shot people lining up at a food truck. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2834 "2022-08-22T01:39:20Z")
Arkansas state police are “investigating” the video of three cops beating a black man and slamming his head into the pavement. > **[Cops Investigated After Video Shows Them Punching, Slamming Man](https://www.thedailybeast.com/arkansas-state-police-launch-investigation-after-video-of-alleged-police-brutality-in-crawford-county-report)** > > Three officers are seen punching, kicking, and slamming a man’s head to the ground in the shocking footage. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2835 "2022-08-22T16:19:59Z")
They ordered the civilian filming them to stop filming. The video makes it look as if she did. She shouldn’t have\*; it’s her constitutional right in all 50 states to film police. \*Of course, when roided up cops are whooping someone’s ass, it’s probably best to keep a distance for your own safety. But still. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2836 "2022-08-22T17:27:15Z")
> **[2 Arkansas deputies suspended and 1 officer on administrative leave after...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/21/us/arkansas-officer-punching-video-suspensions/index.html)** > > Three Arkansas law enforcement officers have been removed from duty and are facing state and federal investigations, officials confirmed Monday, after bystander video captured at least two of them punching and kneeing a suspect during an arrest. Two of the cops have been suspended and one is on administrative leave. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2837 "2022-08-22T21:09:37Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > administrative leave. AKA “Paid vacation until this blows over” ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2838 "2022-08-22T21:12:02Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > AKA “Paid vacation until this blows over” “We investigated ourselves and have concluded that we did nothing wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2839 "2022-08-22T22:01:54Z")
Not that it’s relevant, by the way, but almost no “firearms” involve fire. The only true “firearm” I can think of is a potato gun, or maybe some kinds of rocket launcher. Gunpowder is a self-contained chemical reaction; it doesn’t need oxygen to react with. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2840 "2022-08-23T12:14:44Z")
**[Fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire)** is defined as a rapid oxidation process that releases heat and light. By definition, an oxidizer is involved, although it need not come from the atmosphere. In the case of gunpowder, it includes its own oxidizing component. **[Smokeless powder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smokeless_powder)** is understood to **[combust](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustion)**, releasing light in the process. Yep, it’s a fire. Any weapon that uses an oxidizing chemical reaction to propel a projectile can reasonably be described as a firearm (though the exact legal definition may vary). ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2841 "2022-08-23T14:35:34Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/trenton-police-officer-allegedly-hid-gang-ties-planned-assault-on-suspected-informant/ar-AA10Yffa?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=05ed8e306675448a8710d2d33e4bc9e6](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/trenton-police-officer-allegedly-hid-gang-ties-planned-assault-on-suspected-informant/ar-AA10Yffa?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=05ed8e306675448a8710d2d33e4bc9e6) > The two-year veteran of the force is suspended without pay. Suspended. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2842 "2022-08-23T16:01:57Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Suspended. Really. Without pay - that’s the strictest immediate discipline we’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2843 "2022-08-23T16:08:31Z")
I imagine a police officer cannot be immediately fired, due to various union agreements, appeals processes, and so on, so suspended without pay (and then, hopefully, later fired) may be the best that can be done. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2844 "2022-08-23T17:29:33Z")
Police in Ohio raided Afroman’s home for unclear reasons. > **[Afroman's Home Raided by Cops in Ohio, Says He Needs Ben Crump](https://www.tmz.com/2022/08/22/afroman-home-raided-police-ohio-drugs/)** > > Afroman's weekend was capped off by a lot of police activity -- his house was raided by law enforcement ... who were apparently on a drug hunt, and came in guns drawn. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2845 "2022-08-23T17:36:59Z")
Off-duty Chicago cop faces felony charges for pinning down a Puerto Rican boy he (the cop) falsely accused of stealing a bicycle. [https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/off-duty-chicago-cop-lands-134500090.html](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/off-duty-chicago-cop-lands-134500090.html) ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2846 "2022-08-23T17:41:03Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > Police in Ohio raided Afroman’s home for unclear reasons. Either they were looking for the Colt 45 and two Zig-Zags that he confessed to having in his possession, or the police chief is the brother of the leader of the Ku Klux Klan and is trying to get back at Afroman for shtupping his niece. Jeez, man, your brother _already_ beat the shit out of him. Leave the poor man alone. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2847 "2022-08-23T17:43:16Z")
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