# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 145
**Author:** ![QMatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/aeb1de/32.png) [@QMatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QMatic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2888 "2022-08-27T16:34:40Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > This “officer-involved shooting” BS has got to stop. Why on earth does the press let the police get away with dictating their stories? It’s never “officers shot and killed a man” but always “a man was struck by a bullet in an officer-involved shooting and was pronounced dead”. Like these sorts of things just sort of happen around the police, and they’re not actively involved except by proximity. The police may claim “officer-involved shooting” is more appropriate before the facts about who shot whom are established. Yes it is BS designed to protect officers and the department from full scrutiny, but it is the sort of factually correct BS that is hard to argue against. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2889 "2022-08-27T16:53:24Z")
Is this thread limited only to where the cops were out of line? Because if not, this one’s a doozy: QAnon followers in Canada descended upon a police station to make “citizens’ arrests” of the officers. It … didn’t end well. > **[Followers of QAnon ‘Queen of Canada’ obeyed her orders to arrest police...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/followers-qanon-queen-canada-obeyed-220405344.html)** > > Followers of Filipino QAnon influencer Romana Didulo, who claims to be the newly installed Queen of Canada, obeyed her request to meet in Peterborough, Canada, and arrest police officers. Didulo, who has over 70,000 followers online, is a leader in... ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2890 "2022-08-28T14:01:44Z")
Salt Lake City police called to the scene of a man having a mental health crisis, proceed to whoop his ass. He later died. [Police video of fatal encounter shows lack of de-escalation](https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-video-fatal-encounter-shows-233117194.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2891 "2022-08-28T14:26:02Z")
> [@QMatic](#): > > The police may claim “officer-involved shooting” is more appropriate before the facts about who shot whom are established. The police may claim all kinds of things. I was asking why the press copies their tortured passive voice prose. In police press releases, things happen around police officers but police officers never actually do anything (unless it unambiguously makes them look good). But the press is under no obligation to follow the police’s lead in cases like this. The only people doing the shooting in the story in question (so far as anyone can tell given the tortured passive voice prose) were police. The press could write their story using language that doesn’t obscure that fact. And it would give the police in the story agency, too! Agency being exercised in questionable ways, perhaps, but agency nonetheless. Otherwise people might start feeling sorry for the police who are apparently helpless to shape the events they are a part of. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2892 "2022-08-29T04:22:03Z")
> [@HeyHomie](#): > > Is this thread limited only to where the cops were out of line? Because if not, this one’s a doozy: QAnon followers in Canada descended upon a police station to make “citizens’ arrests” of the officers. It … didn’t end well. Sure, a nitpick, but I would’ve put this in the Omnibus Stupid Mofo thread instead, with the focus not on the cops but on the absolutely bonkers ignoroids whom I disown as compatriots, violently initiating all the brouhaha (balderdash, ballyhoo!) to begin with, and nicely summed up by this quote from the article: > [@](#): > > "[Some completely-off-her-rocker harridan is] pretty calculating, she knows what she can get away with and what she can’t,” Kurt Phillips of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network told [The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/23/queen-of-canada-qanon-rise-conspiracy-alarm). “Either way, she wins. Because if the police do nothing, then she can claim it’s because they’re following her edicts. If they do something, it feeds into the persecution mentality of her followers.” ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2893 "2022-08-29T20:45:06Z")
Maryland police settle with mother of five-year-old boy after cops verbally berated him, cuffed him, and put him into the back of a cruiser for walking out of school. "An officer is also accused of telling the boy, “this is why people need to beat their kids” and “I hope your mama let me beat you.” [https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/maryland-police-officer-sued-threatening-140549772.html](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/maryland-police-officer-sued-threatening-140549772.html) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2894 "2022-09-01T16:46:21Z")
Unfortunately the bleeding hearts liberals who dominate this thread don’t understand how dangerous a vape pen is to a responding officer: > **[Columbus police fatally shoot unarmed man during attempted arrest](https://wgno.com/news/nmw/man-shot-and-killed-by-ohio-police-may-have-had-vape-pen-not-gun/)** > > COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH) — A 20-year-old is dead after he was fatally shot early Tuesday by a Columbus police officer attempting to serve an arrest warrant on him, with body camera footage showi… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2895 "2022-09-02T06:29:37Z")
This encounter is just weird > **[Giant Pool of Blood Mysteriously Appears, Stumps Cops](https://www.thedailybeast.com/giant-pool-of-blood-mysteriously-appears-on-pavement-in-pennsylvania-stumps-cops)** > > Investigators has used every method in the book to find out what happened but have come up empty handed. I mean, it is _kinda_ an encouter. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2896 "2022-09-02T16:41:53Z")
Of the ghost kind… ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2897 "2022-09-03T00:49:37Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Unfortunately the bleeding hearts liberals who dominate this thread don’t understand how dangerous a vape pen is to a responding officer. Vape pens don’t usually cause someone’s death quite _that_ quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2898 "2022-09-04T02:53:57Z")
We already know [discrimination does not stop at the victim’s death](https://people.com/human-interest/black-sheriffs-deputy-denied-burial-louisiana-cemetery-whites-only-policy/), so why should police actions against the victim stop then, too? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2899 "2022-09-04T17:38:25Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Jyz4M6kICgs/maxresdefault.jpg "The Magnificent Seven(1960) - Boot Hill Cemetary") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyz4M6kICgs) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2900 "2022-09-09T00:24:29Z")
[Official: Suspect in Canada stab rampage died after arrest | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/canada-stabbings-suspect-criminal-record-02e87b3f776e9732c8ab082e9b994509) They are calling it a self-inflicted wound – but it is Canadian police, those bobbies never distort the facts. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2901 "2022-09-09T00:29:06Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > They are calling it a self-inflicted wound – but it is Canadian police, those bobbies never distort the facts. The Beloved and I were discussing this over supper. Our best guess was that he and his brother got into a knife fight a couple of days ago. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2902 "2022-09-09T14:29:42Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Cops went to a man’s funeral to arrest the man’s son on an outstanding warrant. > > Instead, they wound up killing him while he was hugging a relative. The relative was unscathed, but not for lack of trying by the cops. > > [https://www.wowktv.com/news/man-dead-after-officer-involved-shooting-at-nutter-fort-funeral-home/](https://www.wowktv.com/news/man-dead-after-officer-involved-shooting-at-nutter-fort-funeral-home/) Is this becoming a thing? [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-wants-answers-after-pallbearer-killed-by-officers/ar-AA11CBsI?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=bbda71eb94bf4d8dbb3f6d1dcf6d9d6e](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-wants-answers-after-pallbearer-killed-by-officers/ar-AA11CBsI?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=bbda71eb94bf4d8dbb3f6d1dcf6d9d6e) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2903 "2022-09-09T14:40:51Z")
West Virginia doesn’t have the death penalty, so I am forced to wish for life without parole for the cops involved if it does turn out that Owens was unarmed, as witnesses state. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2904 "2022-09-09T22:23:39Z")
### [DOJ probe into LMPD could include sexual misconduct detailed in VICE News…](https://www.wlky.com/article/doj-investigation-lmpd-police-vice-news-sexual-misconduct/40051439#) A VICE News episode examines allegations of sexual misconduct by LMPD officers. Saw a youtube video on this from a few years back. It seems the pattern of behavior is rampant. Cops force women into sex either by force or by threats of charges. When they complain to the Public Integrity Unit, the find that name of the unit is a big joke and they are actively discouraged from proceeding, then close cases without any investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2905 "2022-09-10T11:43:09Z")
LMPD - Louisville (Kentucky) Metro Police Department ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2906 "2022-09-10T17:41:57Z")
Florida cop took a teenage girl’s phone from her when she was arrested, skimmed through the naked photos of her while driving, hit a deer because he was distracted by the photos, gave her half a sandwich then told her the sandwich wasn’t free and groped her while handcuffing her, then suggested a threesome with her mother. > **[New Port Richey officer fired amid allegations of fondling girl in custody](https://www.tampabay.com/news/crime/2022/09/09/new-port-richey-officer-fired-amid-allegations-of-fondling-girl-in-custody/)** > > Bobby Lubrido, 43, was fired after an investigation into claims he touched a 17-year-old girl’s buttocks and breasts while taking her to juvenile detention. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/2907 "2022-09-10T17:50:54Z")
It’s no wonder it’s hard to find enough people wanting to be police, if such common and simple conduct now gets one fired. /s [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=144) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=146)