# Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians - the omnibus thread #2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531 "2020-06-23T20:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 157
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3128 "2023-01-23T19:35:59Z")
and another one > **[Milwaukee police officer accused; abusing infant, faces 2 charges](https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwaukee-father-accused-abusing-infant)** > > "The defendant provided surveillance video for the twelve-hour time frame that would have covered the events" involving the child. The complaint noted, "there is a one-hour time frame missing from the surveillance video from inside of the residence." ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3129 "2023-01-23T21:28:00Z")
More: > **[Six Fresno police officers fired, many more disciplined, report shows](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/six-fresno-police-officers-fired-many-more-disciplined-report-shows/ar-AA16EVV2?cvid=521a9e92954a4a43a00669508fd4fa88)** > > Six officers were fired last year from the Fresno Police Department as part of 58 disciplinary actions, according to a report released Monday. Along with the terminations, five cops resigned in lieu of other discipline, two retired, 28 were... ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3130 "2023-01-23T23:10:53Z")
> **[Family say Tyre Nichols was beaten ‘like a human piñata’ in Memphis police...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-say-tyre-nichols-was-beaten-like-a-human-pi%C3%B1ata-in-memphis-police-murder/ar-AA16Fnn2?cvid=57826c0661aa4bd585f01d347628231b)** > > High-profile attorney Ben Crump called bodycam footage of his death “appalling, deplorable and heinous.” All 5 fired officers were hired by neighboring Tennessee cities. Back to you, Phil. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3131 "2023-01-24T13:36:57Z")
I can’t find anything about this in local media (I live near R’dam). The only Dutch link I can find goes to a article from 2018 on a Belgian news site. The Belgian article mentions this would be a proposed pilot. Given that this is the first I’ve heard of it, I think this is a case of journo’s playing telephone. (I’m also 100% sure the pilot didn’t get greenlighted) > [@Cervaise](#): > > Gangs and organized crime have sharply escalated in the Netherlands Can I get a cite for that? (it is trending down, as it is almost everywhere in the world) > [@Cervaise](#): > > a teenaged member of the royal family had to withdraw from school She (Amalia) didn’t withdraw from school, she didn’t move into her Amsterdam apartment after the address was published by “news” bloggers. (not “gang” related). Somehow Americans (your Ambassador!) love to claim the Netherlands are some kind of crime hotspot. In fact the Netherlands are an order of magnitude safer than the US when considering [intentional homicides](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate). ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3132 "2023-01-25T04:23:52Z")
Kansas City, Kansas cop tweaking out of his mind while he and his partner appear at an apartment. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/MCHTcNX4n9I/maxresdefault.jpg "Cop Shows Up High As A Kite To Work, Gets Called Out IMMEDIATELY") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCHTcNX4n9I) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3133 "2023-01-25T16:39:27Z")
Holy Shit Snacks!! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3134 "2023-01-25T17:15:12Z")
> **[Disoriented KCK police officer in viral video deserves help — and public...](https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article271526722.html)** > > “You’re high as (expletive), dude.” If he was having a medical crisis, or if his actions put people in danger, department leadership needs to get to the bottom of the incident. > “While still early in the investigation, preliminary information indicates that a medical condition may have been a factor in the officer’s appearance.” So why was his partner so unconcerned?? My guess, the brass knew about this guy for some time and told the partner to shut up about it. He needs to step and comment for his own sake. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3135 "2023-01-25T17:21:25Z")
My guess would be (not-unhinged) buddy figured he’d lose even _more_ face if he decided to just up and cart unhinged buddy away. Hate trying to get into useless fuckers’ heads like that. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3136 "2023-01-25T17:23:40Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > preliminary information indicates that a medical condition may have been a factor in the officer’s appearance. Well, technically, being on drugs is a medical condition. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3137 "2023-01-25T18:37:06Z")
Medical condition or otherwise (drugs), if the partner didn’t know it was going on, as soon as it was pointed out, I’m surprised he didn’t even seem to acknowledge it. If it was something the partner knew about (drugs), he could have feigned concern and acted like it was an actual medical event. They could have taken a lot of the heat off themselves had he said “What’s going on? Let’s get you back out to the car and call EMS” That’s the only thing I can think of. That the cop was high and he was trying to cover by acting like everything was totally normal. Especially if he’s going to get in trouble as well. But even that doesn’t quite seem right. If the cop was, in fact, high, the other cop should have just had him wait in the car and hope it wears off soon. He certainly wasn’t helping _anything_ by acting like that. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3138 "2023-01-25T18:38:46Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Medical condition or otherwise (drugs), if the partner didn’t know it was going on, as soon as it was pointed out, I’m surprised he didn’t even seem to acknowledge it. The partner would not even turn his head to look at him. He knew what was happening. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3139 "2023-01-25T18:47:16Z")
That’s why I was mostly ruling out an actual medical event. I assume the cop was high and the other cop was ignoring it. However, the fact that he ignored it instead of getting him out of that situation makes me think he not only knew about it but might get in trouble as well. Maybe he (the ‘sober’ one) is going to be on camera stealing the drugs from somewhere or maybe he’ll also fail a drug test. I don’t know, but to me, him not even acknowledging it was what really caught my attention. Maybe it’s completely the opposite. I’d be happy if we found out the sober cop had been complaining about this guy always being high and always stealing all the drugs and it’s been ignored over and over so he finally decided to stop covering for him to force everyone to deal with the situation. Probably not, but maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3140 "2023-01-26T04:00:00Z")
Pennsylvania police chief arrested for drug dealing. > **[Greensburg Police Chief Shawn Denning charged with federal drug crimes](https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/greensburg-chief-of-police-shawn-denning-federal-drug-crimes/)** > > Chief Shawn Denning was taken into custody on Wednesday morning. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3141 "2023-01-26T12:30:02Z")
I know his family. Why do cops make such lousy criminals? You think they’d be great at it. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3142 "2023-01-26T12:57:48Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Why do cops make such lousy criminals? You think they’d be great at it. You only hear about the lousy ones. The good ones don’t get caught. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3143 "2023-01-26T13:04:15Z")
Then there are a ton of cop-criminals out there. My town’s police chief did a couple years for selling guns he’d confiscated as well as ammunition meant for training. Another cop locally was caught selling drugs he’d confiscated. And now this guy. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3144 "2023-01-26T13:30:00Z")
In the last local election our, then current, mayor was not running for re-election. After the election was over and the new mayor was chosen, he (the then still sitting mayor) filed a complaint against the new/soon-to-be mayor for some minor campaign issue, really minor, like yard signs were left up too long or something. However, he filed the complaint under the name “John Doe”, signed it John Doe and then used the city clerk’s notary stamp to notarize it. The state charged him and he did a month in jail for “Attempt to Falsely Act as Public Official”. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3145 "2023-01-26T21:57:00Z")
It looks like these piece of shit motherfuckers are about to face the music. > **[Live coverage: Tyre Nichols' death investigation and murder charges](https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tyre-nichols-memphis-news-1-26-23/index.html)** > > All five former Memphis police officers involved in the arrest of Tyre Nichols are facing murder charges, according to court records. Follow here for the latest. (Memphis officials are warning the citizenry- Look, you’re really really not going to like the bodycam footage. Please don’t behave like these cops did! Please! Peaceful protest, ha ha, we can do that, right? Please?) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3146 "2023-01-26T23:02:12Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Please don’t behave like these cops did! Please! Peaceful protest, ha ha, we can do that, right? Please?) or else these cops will beat you like dogs… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531/3147 "2023-01-26T23:23:10Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Peaceful protest, ha ha, we can do that, right? Peaceful protest against the police tends to attract pro-police gangs who cause things to become unpeaceful. If the gangs fail to show up, the police themselves tend to find ways to make things go south (“_You looked at me, **right in the eyes** , ARRRRGH!_”). “We” may well be able to do that, but the choice is not up to us. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=156) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/controversial-encounters-between-law-enforcement-and-civilians-the-omnibus-thread-2/912531.md?page=158)